pls help me to fix my csgo problems I have for years

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Re: pls help me to fix my csgo problems I have for years

Post by Wayzer » 24 Feb 2023, 06:38

timecard wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 15:09
paddyhhh wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 14:26
After joining a server, game is always for 15-20 sec perfect
Sometimes this change in feeling can be related to gpu/cpu clocks going from a lower performance mode to high performance mode which changes render and input processing/latency.
I have exactly the same issue. My input delay in both keyboard and mouse disappears for a very short time (like 20-30 secs) in 5 occasions.
1. My mouse "idles" for 1+ minute (and the mouse ONLY, if I do this with keyboard - nothing happens). And then if I move my mouse again the input delay is literally perfect for... of course 20-30 secs at max.
2. If I change ANYTHING related to graphics in game settings. In ANY game. I tried that with Apex, Valorant, Csgo - it happens everywhere. So, I change one setting - the mouse and strafe feeling is perfect for 20 secs.
3. Alt-tabbing. If I alt-tab and open the game back - its almost (!) perfect for 20 secs. Actually it's not that perfect like in the previous examples, but it's still feels so much better.
4. Unplugging and plugging back in the monitor cable. Similar result to the 1st and 2nd.

OH, and the last one, the absolutely best example.
5. If I unplug and plug back in the ethernet cable. This is so far gives the best feeling of my input delay. It's actually comparable with the 4th, but it's slightly better. Actually the greatest improvement that I had was replacing my ethernet cable. When I did that 1st time I had literally the best mouse and strafe feeling in years. And it lasted for actually quite a long time - 5-8 minutes. And then it came back.

Idk how's all of that related, but I felt that I should write this.

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Re: pls help me to fix my csgo problems I have for years

Post by MontyTheAverage » 24 Feb 2023, 06:50

I have been testing the lag last few days and just today I have tried this scenario for few hours and my input lag, desync and hitreg issues improved greatly even though a bit inconsistent. This was around 3AM but usually I have the lag 99% of the time no matter the time or day. Not sure what the reasoning for improvement is yet but will be testing this scenario more to see if it is just one of those temporary fix and then stops working. If anyone wants to try and see if they feel any difference, let me know. And make sure to create restore point before doing just in case.

- Put game on lowest settings as possible

-Put PC power plan on balanced but power efficiency mode

-I used Wifi so uninstalled ethernet driver from device manager. If you use Ethernet, do opposite. Disable as many NIC settings you can.

-Uninstalled bluetooth driver from device manager
-Disabled some bluetooth related things in services

-Another thing to note was that my phone was on airplane mode and charging. When I took off airplane mode, I noticed the lag get worse. So try that also Could be unrelated but just in case.
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Re: pls help me to fix my csgo problems I have for years

Post by MontyTheAverage » 24 Feb 2023, 07:03

Wayzer wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 06:38
timecard wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 15:09
paddyhhh wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 14:26
After joining a server, game is always for 15-20 sec perfect
Sometimes this change in feeling can be related to gpu/cpu clocks going from a lower performance mode to high performance mode which changes render and input processing/latency.
I have exactly the same issue. My input delay in both keyboard and mouse disappears for a very short time (like 20-30 secs) in 5 occasions.
1. My mouse "idles" for 1+ minute (and the mouse ONLY, if I do this with keyboard - nothing happens). And then if I move my mouse again the input delay is literally perfect for... of course 20-30 secs at max.
2. If I change ANYTHING related to graphics in game settings. In ANY game. I tried that with Apex, Valorant, Csgo - it happens everywhere. So, I change one setting - the mouse and strafe feeling is perfect for 20 secs.
3. Alt-tabbing. If I alt-tab and open the game back - its almost (!) perfect for 20 secs. Actually it's not that perfect like in the previous examples, but it's still feels so much better.
4. Unplugging and plugging back in the monitor cable. Similar result to the 1st and 2nd.

OH, and the last one, the absolutely best example.
5. If I unplug and plug back in the ethernet cable. This is so far gives the best feeling of my input delay. It's actually comparable with the 4th, but it's slightly better. Actually the greatest improvement that I had was replacing my ethernet cable. When I did that 1st time I had literally the best mouse and strafe feeling in years. And it lasted for actually quite a long time - 5-8 minutes. And then it came back.

Idk how's all of that related, but I felt that I should write this.
Wow everything you wrote about instances where you see improvements is EXACTLY word for word my same experience. And especially last point. Mine is more like If I reboot my router/modem and get back to my game, I will see crazy improvement when it comes to.the input lag, desync and hitreg. Even the game sound and graphics look better for those few seconds to minutes. Same happens when I turn off sny internet in the PC for a bit and then turn it back on. Or what I mentioned in my last post which I have testing right now.

But I have tested game where I kept my home internet totally off and played with mobile hotspot. The same lag issues are still present. And just like my home internet, the lag creeps in same way. And the cause has to be external because I have tried several PCs laptops and desktops so far with all different configuration and setup. All had the same exact lag no matter the difference in brand, specs and hardware. I feel something within the PC gets damaged or error corrected. Or possibly some other type of interference. Not sure on the cause yet.

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Re: pls help me to fix my csgo problems I have for years

Post by Wayzer » 24 Feb 2023, 08:05

MontyTheAverage wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 07:03
Wayzer wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 06:38
timecard wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 15:09
paddyhhh wrote:
20 Feb 2023, 14:26
After joining a server, game is always for 15-20 sec perfect
Sometimes this change in feeling can be related to gpu/cpu clocks going from a lower performance mode to high performance mode which changes render and input processing/latency.
I have exactly the same issue. My input delay in both keyboard and mouse disappears for a very short time (like 20-30 secs) in 5 occasions.
1. My mouse "idles" for 1+ minute (and the mouse ONLY, if I do this with keyboard - nothing happens). And then if I move my mouse again the input delay is literally perfect for... of course 20-30 secs at max.
2. If I change ANYTHING related to graphics in game settings. In ANY game. I tried that with Apex, Valorant, Csgo - it happens everywhere. So, I change one setting - the mouse and strafe feeling is perfect for 20 secs.
3. Alt-tabbing. If I alt-tab and open the game back - its almost (!) perfect for 20 secs. Actually it's not that perfect like in the previous examples, but it's still feels so much better.
4. Unplugging and plugging back in the monitor cable. Similar result to the 1st and 2nd.

OH, and the last one, the absolutely best example.
5. If I unplug and plug back in the ethernet cable. This is so far gives the best feeling of my input delay. It's actually comparable with the 4th, but it's slightly better. Actually the greatest improvement that I had was replacing my ethernet cable. When I did that 1st time I had literally the best mouse and strafe feeling in years. And it lasted for actually quite a long time - 5-8 minutes. And then it came back.

Idk how's all of that related, but I felt that I should write this.
Wow everything you wrote about instances where you see improvements is EXACTLY word for word my same experience. And especially last point. Mine is more like If I reboot my router/modem and get back to my game, I will see crazy improvement when it comes to.the input lag, desync and hitreg. Even the game sound and graphics look better for those few seconds to minutes. Same happens when I turn off sny internet in the PC for a bit and then turn it back on. Or what I mentioned in my last post which I have testing right now.

But I have tested game where I kept my home internet totally off and played with mobile hotspot. The same lag issues are still present. And just like my home internet, the lag creeps in same way. And the cause has to be external because I have tried several PCs laptops and desktops so far with all different configuration and setup. All had the same exact lag no matter the difference in brand, specs and hardware. I feel something within the PC gets damaged or error corrected. Or possibly some other type of interference. Not sure on the cause yet.
Oh sure man. I tried exact the same thing with mobile hotspot, its actually a slightly better, but not a fix surely. I didn't believe that firstly, because like how?... Ah and ALSO! The thing that drives me crazy to this day. If I connect with mobile spot - I can get exactly the same result with unplugging - plugging back in ethernet cable. The only thing you need to do is disconnect from the mobile spot and connect back. 1=1 result.

Graphics are 100% better after ethernet thing and monitor cable, I mean you can see that the sharpness is adjusted, this is the most obvious red flag that you have some interference. Did you try optical internet connection by any chance? Because that's what Im thinking about lately. I don't actually believe that it'll be a fix for me, but I have nothing more to do. And I'm considering to buy optical HDMI just in case.
Also keep in mind that I changed everything related to router. Also I thought that this is something related to the whole internet connection driver thing or smth, especially when I tested out the mobile hotspot when my wi-fi router was completely disconnected but the issue still persisted. But I didnt find anything, sadly...

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Re: pls help me to fix my csgo problems I have for years

Post by blackmagic » 24 Feb 2023, 12:28

assombrosso wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 15:00
blackmagic wrote:
23 Feb 2023, 08:11
its me blackmagic again...

i was following everything what happens here and i want only say 1 thing.

your issues are connected to network and your providers and location from where you connect to the servers...

elecricity is bullshit and chief is right that 99% cases are not connected to emi or electricity.


everything said.


we need to focus on providers and location from where players connect to server and how it all gets handled at the connect point...
something here is happening and going very very wrong for many players...
Indeed , I don’t think is the only fix for my case. It’s servers and net code and ISP. I’ve seen some streamers have flawless gameplay that changes to laggy from time to time.

don't know your case but i read already many cases...and most describe similar feelings and share similar experiences and changes...no matter at what elo.

if we want solve this all mess then we need to do this:
1. contact developers and somehow bring them to give finally attention to all this changes and adress all this...
(they gonna say its ping or bad internet...pls contact your isp...blabla but it is not that only !)
something happen on there side too which they clearly dont want to speak about openly.

2. do same step with our ISP...


3. fix. =)


this all very hard to do but if people rly want to solve all this...then this the only way.
developers and isp need to talk about all this and finally make it public...so the players don't drift into electricity and emi inputlag bullshit...which is 99% not the solution but only a placebo and connected directly with our ISP and the GAME SERVERS....

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Re: pls help me to fix my csgo problems I have for years

Post by paddyhhh » 24 Feb 2023, 13:40

Graphics are 100% better after ethernet thing and monitor cable, I mean you can see that the sharpness is adjusted, this is the most obvious red flag that you have some interference. Did you try optical internet connection by any chance? Because that's what Im thinking about lately. I don't actually believe that it'll be a fix for me, but I have nothing more to do. And I'm considering to buy optical HDMI just in case.
Also keep in mind that I changed everything related to router. Also I thought that this is something related to the whole internet connection driver thing or smth, especially when I tested out the mobile hotspot when my wi-fi router was completely disconnected but the issue still persisted. But I didnt find anything, sadly...
The graphic does not get better, but while turning fast ingame the textures stay sharp without input lag.
So I think the degraded graphic is just a symptome as many other.

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Re: pls help me to fix my csgo problems I have for years

Post by imprecise » 25 Feb 2023, 03:55

Hiddenbars wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 02:32
No its no troll post, the whole purpose with this method is that you trick the computer to adjust the voltages and pci slots, and then wipe it through secure erase, this method worked for me, CMOS did not, remember to remove any fast boot first before doing this, even the memory fast boot.
A lot of people have important data they would lose following those steps, especially since they're right after complex information with no warning.

I would go edit the post and put a warning and explanation before the advice to secure erase the hard drive. And creating a Windows install should be before that so they aren't stuck with no OS. Not everyone has a Windows install just sitting around ready to go.

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Re: pls help me to fix my csgo problems I have for years

Post by paddyhhh » 25 Feb 2023, 06:38

yesterday I played csgo while prime time friday 8pm.
Completely unplayable, shots did register so bad I have not seen very often. Ping was stable as always,15-20ms.

Used VPN to a server in my neighbour country which has a stable ping the whole day.
Game instantly playable much better. Not perfect as without VPN at night but playable.
The available VPN servers in my own country have 10ms ping while night, 40-70 while prime time.

Does the ISP have some possibility to stabilize the ping of their customers but delay them somewhere else?

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Re: pls help me to fix my csgo problems I have for years

Post by imprecise » 25 Feb 2023, 23:45

paddyhhh wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 06:38
yesterday I played csgo while prime time friday 8pm.
Completely unplayable, shots did register so bad I have not seen very often. Ping was stable as always,15-20ms.

Used VPN to a server in my neighbour country which has a stable ping the whole day.
Game instantly playable much better. Not perfect as without VPN at night but playable.
The available VPN servers in my own country have 10ms ping while night, 40-70 while prime time.

Does the ISP have some possibility to stabilize the ping of their customers but delay them somewhere else?
There are a couple things that can explain this:
1. The VPN service could have higher priority routing than your residential packets, making packets stay at a higher priority when going through a congested route. The VPN could also have optimized network configuration compared to not using it.
2. Network lag compensation favors higher ping in CSGO, and smooths out choppiness. Low ping can cause a disadvantage due to the way networking works in the game. Small mistakes are fully punished at low pings, and they can be smoothed out like they never happened at high ping. Examples: spray control feels easier at higher ping, but aimpunch can affect it greatly. Strafe jumping feels easier at lower ping due to more responsive input/output.

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Re: pls help me to fix my csgo problems I have for years

Post by Chief Blur Buster » 26 Feb 2023, 01:39

Hiddenbars wrote:
24 Feb 2023, 05:35
  • I found 1 fix for this but it will only work if you are lucky!
  • Can't guarantee anything!
I came pass this randomly and it worked for me.
Just wanna share what I know, so we can put this huge garbage can of problem to rest.

Im gonna type exactly what I did. In this order from up to down.

Install Nvidia driver through ' nvcleaninstall after that boot into BIOS.
Be very careful where you download your software.

One of them is legitimate NVIDIA-compatible software and another is a hard disk wiper. So when you follow this tip, please correctly download the correct software from authorized sources recommended by multiple people

Also, when people download disk-wiping software such as Partition Manager, be very clear to explain what it is.
Hiddenbars wrote:
25 Feb 2023, 05:11
Obviously you didn't read the post, because I made caution notes and told them to not do anything without any form of knowledge, start reading before judging someone. The question is, are you trolling?
I prefer neither side to use the word "troll". Read the "Be Nice" rule at viewtopic.php?f=3&t=183

Since we have forum members from over 140 countries worldwide, many people here use a translator and may not realize exactly what they're doing, e.g. some translations may say that they're erasing a bad file rather than erasing a whole disk. Many people here don't have English as their first language, and forum rules mandate the use of English for forum posts, for consistency. Consequently, people who want to participate despite not knowing English, are forced to use translators, and sometimes with disastorous consequences when it comes to complicated instructions.

I have edited your original post to include a large warning. When it comes to risky software, I prefer not be "casual" about warnings when it comes to this. Warnings need to be more bolder and severe.

And everybody, cease this trollshaming or I will close this thread. It's a distraction. Thank you.
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