Question about gaming laptops and mouse feel
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Re: Question about gaming laptops and mouse feel
ok thank you all for your responses, based on them and my research, I decided to go another way. I also want to clarify that based on your responses I see that we probably have different issues. I don't experience monitor jitter, keyboard action keys being delayed etc. The only issue I experience - mouse sensitivity feeling "floaty"/"on ice" most of the time.
So what I will do next:
Today I've tried to test how my mouse sensitivity will "feel" when PC is plugged into portable power station. Funny enough - my mouse became snappy instantly. Then I unplugged it from power station and plugged it into socket on the wall - everything went back to being bad. Then I did the other way around again - everything smooth. But here's an interesting thing - since power station battery capacity is relatively small, I could only play for around 2 hours(everything was good and snappy). Then I had to charge battery again and tried to play while PC is connected to it once again - mouse was "floaty" again, it caught me off guard, because I thought I've found a solution. So I started researching "dirty" electricity issues and found a suggestion to leave the charged power station for a couple of hours, so it can "clean" itself from the dirty electricity it was charged with (yeah lol). I did just that and tested everything in the evening. Everything was snappy and smooth for around two hours (battery charge capacity).
tldr; Based on my observations I ordered an online UPS just to check if it will help provide constant "clean" power to my PC.
So what I will do next:
Today I've tried to test how my mouse sensitivity will "feel" when PC is plugged into portable power station. Funny enough - my mouse became snappy instantly. Then I unplugged it from power station and plugged it into socket on the wall - everything went back to being bad. Then I did the other way around again - everything smooth. But here's an interesting thing - since power station battery capacity is relatively small, I could only play for around 2 hours(everything was good and snappy). Then I had to charge battery again and tried to play while PC is connected to it once again - mouse was "floaty" again, it caught me off guard, because I thought I've found a solution. So I started researching "dirty" electricity issues and found a suggestion to leave the charged power station for a couple of hours, so it can "clean" itself from the dirty electricity it was charged with (yeah lol). I did just that and tested everything in the evening. Everything was snappy and smooth for around two hours (battery charge capacity).
tldr; Based on my observations I ordered an online UPS just to check if it will help provide constant "clean" power to my PC.
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BootyLover
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Re: Question about gaming laptops and mouse feel
You can't tell me to wear a tin foil hat when you can't form a coherent sentence in any of your ramblings. This is what your comments look like:blackmagic wrote: β05 Apr 2023, 20:53BootyLover wrote: β05 Apr 2023, 19:00blackmagic wrote: β05 Apr 2023, 16:31if i would have much money...loccomacco wrote: β05 Apr 2023, 16:23
Do you really want to know and throw your money maybe for your last hope? Then how much you can? 200$? 500? 1000 or 2000? Is it really worth for you to try? If it is then we can talk about it, otherwise I don't wanna give another possible fake hope.
i would go for sure high end gaming notebook.
1. its good investment.
2. no matter what happens after but its an good tool that gonna tell you what wrong and how reality looks like.
3. you stop to cope.
all your nightmares with electricity/emi and bioses tweaks and all other placebos gonna end.
lesson learned.
believe me.
Funny that you always blame average joes for not knowing about this problem yet you don't know the difference between radiated and power releated problems. I'm a complete newbie to this yet even I know that buying a laptop won't solve anything ( have one myself ) because if it is over the air interference than laptop it useless. And i dont understand why are u blaming everyone for this problem.. Yeah i get it it is pretty annoying but what do you expect s1mple or gabe newell to come to your apartment and start looking where is interference coming from and shielding against it? Ok let me call AMD and Nvidia developers to fix my clogged toilet in my apartment... they are probably experts in that field too.
have fun with your electricity and air interference and shielding cope...
maybe just more foil need ? put all your house in foil...
but its your choice how you gonna handle this all.
i only tell what i think about all and everything.
my own experience, my researches and knowledge that i get in all these 5 years since the issue and problem hit me in my location...
and if its over the air...
go take a train or car ride or walk outside with your notebook and check.
meter by meter...mile by mile...until you find the over air interference spot.
use your notebook as an detector![]()
and your own eyes and game senses.
here how it works:
Basics. The basic concept of Hot and Cold is very simple: you hide an object, your child looks for it, and you use temperature words to tell them if they are moving towards the object (getting warmer) or away from it (getting colder).
tutorial for people that still dont understand the basics:
if its gets much worse = WARM (you near interference or whatever radiate)
if its gets better = COLD (you far away from whatever shit)
we already learned as kids how to find all kind of interferences...
simple that.
good luck.
"This is magic problem bro.... no fix gg just stop play.."
"Pro player just good set up omg so great look precision!! but players play shit and no good.."
"This cursed bro cant aim unlucky gaming stop play games!!!!!"
Yea nice research and knowledge right there you contributed a lot for sure
Re: Question about gaming laptops and mouse feel
keep us informedasappppp wrote: β06 Apr 2023, 03:20ok thank you all for your responses, based on them and my research, I decided to go another way. I also want to clarify that based on your responses I see that we probably have different issues. I don't experience monitor jitter, keyboard action keys being delayed etc. The only issue I experience - mouse sensitivity feeling "floaty"/"on ice" most of the time.
So what I will do next:
Today I've tried to test how my mouse sensitivity will "feel" when PC is plugged into portable power station. Funny enough - my mouse became snappy instantly. Then I unplugged it from power station and plugged it into socket on the wall - everything went back to being bad. Then I did the other way around again - everything smooth. But here's an interesting thing - since power station battery capacity is relatively small, I could only play for around 2 hours(everything was good and snappy). Then I had to charge battery again and tried to play while PC is connected to it once again - mouse was "floaty" again, it caught me off guard, because I thought I've found a solution. So I started researching "dirty" electricity issues and found a suggestion to leave the charged power station for a couple of hours, so it can "clean" itself from the dirty electricity it was charged with (yeah lol). I did just that and tested everything in the evening. Everything was snappy and smooth for around two hours (battery charge capacity).
tldr; Based on my observations I ordered an online UPS just to check if it will help provide constant "clean" power to my PC.
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loccomacco
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Re: Question about gaming laptops and mouse feel
You may end up with no success.asappppp wrote: β06 Apr 2023, 03:20ok thank you all for your responses, based on them and my research, I decided to go another way. I also want to clarify that based on your responses I see that we probably have different issues. I don't experience monitor jitter, keyboard action keys being delayed etc. The only issue I experience - mouse sensitivity feeling "floaty"/"on ice" most of the time.
So what I will do next:
Today I've tried to test how my mouse sensitivity will "feel" when PC is plugged into portable power station. Funny enough - my mouse became snappy instantly. Then I unplugged it from power station and plugged it into socket on the wall - everything went back to being bad. Then I did the other way around again - everything smooth. But here's an interesting thing - since power station battery capacity is relatively small, I could only play for around 2 hours(everything was good and snappy). Then I had to charge battery again and tried to play while PC is connected to it once again - mouse was "floaty" again, it caught me off guard, because I thought I've found a solution. So I started researching "dirty" electricity issues and found a suggestion to leave the charged power station for a couple of hours, so it can "clean" itself from the dirty electricity it was charged with (yeah lol). I did just that and tested everything in the evening. Everything was snappy and smooth for around two hours (battery charge capacity).
tldr; Based on my observations I ordered an online UPS just to check if it will help provide constant "clean" power to my PC.
There were a few people claimed they bought a UPS and had no change, but they were not cleared if they bought an online UPS or an interactive one or just a cheap offline UPS, but still there were a few less people who claimed they bought an online but no success.
Btw we can test it one more time, lez see, but make sure you're buying an expensive one with good inverter quality.
TBH, there are other things still remained to test, and I haven't seen anybody tested them, I'm searching if I can find someone who tested them for this symptom or for other things similar to this, I just don't wanna shoot and hit at night and go for buying a thing with no proof.
Oh another thing I should mention, it's not about different symptoms, it's about the strength of EMI or dirty electricity, the strength of it for some people is that high that they have all symptoms, but for some of us, it's just weaker than others so we may not have all symptoms at the same time. We all are just victims. Even those players around the world, who usually don't have issues like us, if you look carefully, they have some periods of time that have a bit issues when aiming or moving or stuff like that, so even those are victims too, but not as bad as us.
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loccomacco
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Re: Question about gaming laptops and mouse feel
Oh I read your new case again more carefully, it did cleared things up a bit in my mind, thank you dude.asappppp wrote: β06 Apr 2023, 03:20ok thank you all for your responses, based on them and my research, I decided to go another way. I also want to clarify that based on your responses I see that we probably have different issues. I don't experience monitor jitter, keyboard action keys being delayed etc. The only issue I experience - mouse sensitivity feeling "floaty"/"on ice" most of the time.
So what I will do next:
Today I've tried to test how my mouse sensitivity will "feel" when PC is plugged into portable power station. Funny enough - my mouse became snappy instantly. Then I unplugged it from power station and plugged it into socket on the wall - everything went back to being bad. Then I did the other way around again - everything smooth. But here's an interesting thing - since power station battery capacity is relatively small, I could only play for around 2 hours(everything was good and snappy). Then I had to charge battery again and tried to play while PC is connected to it once again - mouse was "floaty" again, it caught me off guard, because I thought I've found a solution. So I started researching "dirty" electricity issues and found a suggestion to leave the charged power station for a couple of hours, so it can "clean" itself from the dirty electricity it was charged with (yeah lol). I did just that and tested everything in the evening. Everything was snappy and smooth for around two hours (battery charge capacity).
tldr; Based on my observations I ordered an online UPS just to check if it will help provide constant "clean" power to my PC.
Interesting thing is your new case again confirms that dirty electricity exists and it really interferes with PC parts and gaming and clearly we should find a really reliable way to isolate our PC parts from it, that's why I'm saying it cleared something in my mind, and now I can scratch some of those possible fixes no one tested them.
Re: Question about gaming laptops and mouse feel
I tested a gaming laptop mouse feel so much worse than desktop so...
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ChildOfLuna
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Re: Question about gaming laptops and mouse feel
I can't get rid of these jagged edges at all and as you saw they are in all my devicesloccomacco wrote: β05 Apr 2023, 21:16Yeah I completely know and can confirm what you say, there are specific times that you see less or no jaggy lines in screen while you haven't touched anything and it affects anythingChildOfLuna wrote: β05 Apr 2023, 18:37Exacly as Monty said. This issue affects all electronic devices if you look carefuly Pc, laptop, even tvs and phone
Yes even Tvs that have no gpu,cpu or other "expensive" components can be affected
these jagged edges that you see in this video are in all my devices, pc, laptop, phone and tv
There is a big thread on Linus about this jagged line problem, one of the biggest on that forum I think almost 200 pages and even after all this time they have no idea what causes it
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loccomacco
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Re: Question about gaming laptops and mouse feel
Oh really? Then I guess I should read them too, can you put the link of it here?ChildOfLuna wrote: β06 Apr 2023, 18:30I can't get rid of these jagged edges at all and as you saw they are in all my devicesloccomacco wrote: β05 Apr 2023, 21:16Yeah I completely know and can confirm what you say, there are specific times that you see less or no jaggy lines in screen while you haven't touched anything and it affects anythingChildOfLuna wrote: β05 Apr 2023, 18:37Exacly as Monty said. This issue affects all electronic devices if you look carefuly Pc, laptop, even tvs and phone
Yes even Tvs that have no gpu,cpu or other "expensive" components can be affected
these jagged edges that you see in this video are in all my devices, pc, laptop, phone and tv
There is a big thread on Linus about this jagged line problem, one of the biggest on that forum I think almost 200 pages and even after all this time they have no idea what causes it
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ChildOfLuna
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Re: Question about gaming laptops and mouse feel
loccomacco wrote: β05 Apr 2023, 21:16
Oh really? Then I guess I should read them too, can you put the link of it here?
https://linustechtips.com/topic/638876- ... jagged-aa/
Re: Question about gaming laptops and mouse feel
Update: While waiting for my online UPS order, I wanted to try playing again using a power station with a battery. Mouse was floaty again, even though I hadn't used my PC overnight. So I think my problem is related either to EMI or software/hardware, and since I've tried a lot of software tweaks and changed two PCs, I tend to believe it's 90% EMI. An online UPS won't help me in this case and it's just a waste of money, so I canceled the order.
Probably trying to use the very same PC at another apartment, even in offline mode, would be a good idea, but I don't have time for this. So I will stop investigating it further but will be checking this forum, maybe somebody else will be able to crack it. Good luck.
Probably trying to use the very same PC at another apartment, even in offline mode, would be a good idea, but I don't have time for this. So I will stop investigating it further but will be checking this forum, maybe somebody else will be able to crack it. Good luck.
