VG279QM still worth it in 2023 ?

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Re: VG279QM still worth it in 2023 ?

Post by MatrixQW » 15 Jul 2023, 22:03

Sirius wrote:
15 Jul 2023, 19:45
MatrixQW wrote:
15 Jul 2023, 12:38
No blur, no ghosting, no nothing at 280Hz.
This is one of the best if not the best 240/280Hz monitor.
I'm very sensitive to latency, so I know what I'm talking about.
If what you say is true, I can't wait, he must be incredible then, but allow me to doubt it.
Strobing is not good on this monitor, if that's what you are looking for, forget it.
Oh no, why is it so bad ?, so what is a good strobe monitor for you ? ( don't say ViewSonic XG2431 please, i hate this one )
Watch the review.
I don't use strobing so I don't know wich ones are good.

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Re: VG279QM still worth it in 2023 ?

Post by Sirius » 16 Jul 2023, 00:54

MatrixQW wrote:
15 Jul 2023, 22:03
Sirius wrote:
15 Jul 2023, 19:45
MatrixQW wrote:
15 Jul 2023, 12:38
No blur, no ghosting, no nothing at 280Hz.
This is one of the best if not the best 240/280Hz monitor.
I'm very sensitive to latency, so I know what I'm talking about.
If what you say is true, I can't wait, he must be incredible then, but allow me to doubt it.
Strobing is not good on this monitor, if that's what you are looking for, forget it.
Oh no, why is it so bad ?, so what is a good strobe monitor for you ? ( don't say ViewSonic XG2431 please, i hate this one )
Watch the review.
I don't use strobing so I don't know wich ones are good.
At OD 60 it look so blurry, If so I really won't like it
Anyway it come in 3 days so i will test that personally.
I prefer strobing because for me especially on IPS, every IPS are very blurry so i don't think i will keep it several days honestly.
Current temporary test : none | Main monitor : Acer XV272UX | I had : 1080P : XL2546X / XL2566K / XL2546K / XL2546 / XL2540K / XL2746S / EX2510 / MAG251RX / NXG253R / MAG271CR / VG259QM / VG258QM / XG249CM / XG259CM / VG279QM / S2522HG / XG2431 / XG2405 / XG2702 / AW2518HF / AW2521HF / AW2720HF / 24G2U / Omen X 25 | 1440P : XV272UX / MAG274QRF-QD / MSI MAG 274QRF-QD E2 / 27GP850 / 27GN850 / AW2723DF / Omen X 27 / XG27AQM / XG27AQMR / S2721DGFA / Odyssey G7 / EX270QM / VG27AQML1A / XENEON 27QHD240 / XV272UKF / XV272UX 4K : U28G2XU2 / M32UC

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Re: VG279QM still worth it in 2023 ?

Post by Sirius » 25 Jul 2023, 06:50

MatrixQW wrote:
15 Jul 2023, 10:02
it's amazing. No blur, no ghosting, no nothing at 280Hz.
This is one of the best if not the best 240/280Hz monitor.
I'm very sensitive to latency, so I know what I'm talking about.
Ok, I just got it today.

Very good anti-reflective treatment though!

I will come back when I have tested it more.
Last edited by Sirius on 27 Jul 2023, 05:48, edited 1 time in total.
Current temporary test : none | Main monitor : Acer XV272UX | I had : 1080P : XL2546X / XL2566K / XL2546K / XL2546 / XL2540K / XL2746S / EX2510 / MAG251RX / NXG253R / MAG271CR / VG259QM / VG258QM / XG249CM / XG259CM / VG279QM / S2522HG / XG2431 / XG2405 / XG2702 / AW2518HF / AW2521HF / AW2720HF / 24G2U / Omen X 25 | 1440P : XV272UX / MAG274QRF-QD / MSI MAG 274QRF-QD E2 / 27GP850 / 27GN850 / AW2723DF / Omen X 27 / XG27AQM / XG27AQMR / S2721DGFA / Odyssey G7 / EX270QM / VG27AQML1A / XENEON 27QHD240 / XV272UKF / XV272UX 4K : U28G2XU2 / M32UC

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Re: VG279QM still worth it in 2023 ?

Post by Tygr » 26 Jul 2023, 00:59

Sirius wrote:
25 Jul 2023, 06:50
MatrixQW wrote:
15 Jul 2023, 10:02
it's amazing. No blur, no ghosting, no nothing at 280Hz.
This is one of the best if not the best 240/280Hz monitor.
I'm very sensitive to latency, so I know what I'm talking about.
Ok, I just got it today.
Honestly, it's not as good as you claim, it has ghosting, it's clearly not the worst but you have to play with OD 80 and without ELMB, without Sync to have a decent experience but you're right about strobing, mostly ELMB-SYNC, like always this thing is horrible, I can't perfectly focus those guys with that sick tap-strafe with their Wooting 60HE on Apex Legends, impossible, too blurry, but this is clearly not the worst.

On the other hand, the monitor OSDs are laughable, I also currently have an XG259CM, it has profile 1 and 2 shortcuts but this one does not lmao? just because it's a "Tuff" and not a "Rog", come on Asus !

The overall visibility is pretty meh, you can see quite well in the dark area but it's not alt-tab friendly, like, I love having a profile that I quickly swap when I switch to Youtube/Twitter and one for gaming, with it it's also impossible for profiles to register.

Ok he is very correct in "ghosting" and you can see well in dark places and he cost not so much but in real experience... it is really a "meh" monitor.

Very good anti-reflective treatment though!

Disappointed, my perfect monitor won't be that one unfortunately , I would avoid 1080p 27 inches forever now as well.

Very good anti-reflective treatment though!
Hi I really want to know which monitor from your tests is the most worth it for Apex legends?
I tested many like you did and ended up staying with my Omen X25 and Omen 27QS and I'm still debating if I like 1440p or I enjoy 1080p more.

It feels like it's easier for me to track enemies and read text on 1080p (omen x25)
While the 27qs is good for the 1440p I'm not sure I like it in terms motion blur

Also it seems you used BenQ xl2546k/xl2566k which used by most pros. Why you gave up on them?

Hope we can figure the best monitor options for Apex legends

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Re: VG279QM still worth it in 2023 ?

Post by Sirius » 27 Jul 2023, 05:59

Tygr wrote:
26 Jul 2023, 00:59
Hi I really want to know which monitor from your tests is the most worth it for Apex legends?
I tested many like you did and ended up staying with my Omen X25 and Omen 27QS and I'm still debating if I like 1440p or I enjoy 1080p more.

It feels like it's easier for me to track enemies and read text on 1080p (omen x25)
While the 27qs is good for the 1440p I'm not sure I like it in terms motion blur

Also it seems you used BenQ xl2546k/xl2566k which used by most pros. Why you gave up on them?

Hope we can figure the best monitor options for Apex legends

Hi, I deleted my previous comment because I did not find it objective, I will test it in more detail and for now it seems to be the only and best 27 Inch 1080p recommendable for Apex Legends, it is very smooth!

Regarding the resolution, I was in the same debate as you for 3 years! I change between 1080p and 1440p very often and my conclusion is even at low settings with a big GPU : 1080p > 1440p!

27qs seems to be meh but i'm no longer interested by HP/Omen things, it's just bad for me and overhyped.

Also it seems you used BenQ xl2546k/xl2566k which used by most pros. Why you gave up on them?
Because like the majority, I'm looking for ips, although the good IPS can be counted on the fingers of one hand, I separated from the BenQs because they all had (for the latest models) coil whine, which we don't have with the old models, I had 4 XL2566K, 5 XL2546K, all of them had coil whine.

In terms of input lag, the XL2566K are not the best for me, the XL2546K feels faster in terms of input lag but overall i think the XL2566K is better because 360hz (especially since maybe Apex Legends will uncap the 300FPS limitation in the coming months since they will move the game to Source 2)

The BenQs are good but always leave a feeling of boredom because of the coil whine but especially because TN, sometimes you will lose your duel because of the color clipping of the TN because the red will necessarily be "burned"

On the other hand, if I put myself in "tryhard" mode, I play very well on BenQ screen, currently I separated from the Acer XV272UX, I was with it for more than a year and in the end I almost never play in 1440p on it (yes because it's a 1440p) because I didn't like the feeling of 1440p and this one especially had a really garbage Overdrive (the off/normal mode was laggy, for example when an enemy shot me and there was too much recoil, it looks like I had a loss of FPS/micro stutters but no, it's just the screen that is unstable, that's what happens when your screen that has a really horrible refresh compliance and it was slow and the latest mode of overdrive have a tons of overshoot)

Hope you can find what you want, what is your use ? only competitive gaming ? only Apex Legends ?
Current temporary test : none | Main monitor : Acer XV272UX | I had : 1080P : XL2546X / XL2566K / XL2546K / XL2546 / XL2540K / XL2746S / EX2510 / MAG251RX / NXG253R / MAG271CR / VG259QM / VG258QM / XG249CM / XG259CM / VG279QM / S2522HG / XG2431 / XG2405 / XG2702 / AW2518HF / AW2521HF / AW2720HF / 24G2U / Omen X 25 | 1440P : XV272UX / MAG274QRF-QD / MSI MAG 274QRF-QD E2 / 27GP850 / 27GN850 / AW2723DF / Omen X 27 / XG27AQM / XG27AQMR / S2721DGFA / Odyssey G7 / EX270QM / VG27AQML1A / XENEON 27QHD240 / XV272UKF / XV272UX 4K : U28G2XU2 / M32UC

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Re: VG279QM still worth it in 2023 ?

Post by MatrixQW » 27 Jul 2023, 06:12

Sirius wrote:
25 Jul 2023, 06:50
MatrixQW wrote:
15 Jul 2023, 10:02
it's amazing. No blur, no ghosting, no nothing at 280Hz.
This is one of the best if not the best 240/280Hz monitor.
I'm very sensitive to latency, so I know what I'm talking about.
Ok, I just got it today.

Very good anti-reflective treatment though!

I will come back when I have tested it more.
Use 280Hz with OD 80 and set color temperature to normal to see white as white.

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Re: VG279QM still worth it in 2023 ?

Post by Tygr » 27 Jul 2023, 10:52

Sirius wrote:
27 Jul 2023, 05:59
Tygr wrote:
26 Jul 2023, 00:59
Hi I really want to know which monitor from your tests is the most worth it for Apex legends?
I tested many like you did and ended up staying with my Omen X25 and Omen 27QS and I'm still debating if I like 1440p or I enjoy 1080p more.

It feels like it's easier for me to track enemies and read text on 1080p (omen x25)
While the 27qs is good for the 1440p I'm not sure I like it in terms motion blur

Also it seems you used BenQ xl2546k/xl2566k which used by most pros. Why you gave up on them?

Hope we can figure the best monitor options for Apex legends

Hi, I deleted my previous comment because I did not find it objective, I will test it in more detail and for now it seems to be the only and best 27 Inch 1080p recommendable for Apex Legends, it is very smooth!

Regarding the resolution, I was in the same debate as you for 3 years! I change between 1080p and 1440p very often and my conclusion is even at low settings with a big GPU : 1080p > 1440p!

27qs seems to be meh but i'm no longer interested by HP/Omen things, it's just bad for me and overhyped.

Also it seems you used BenQ xl2546k/xl2566k which used by most pros. Why you gave up on them?
Because like the majority, I'm looking for ips, although the good IPS can be counted on the fingers of one hand, I separated from the BenQs because they all had (for the latest models) coil whine, which we don't have with the old models, I had 4 XL2566K, 5 XL2546K, all of them had coil whine.

In terms of input lag, the XL2566K are not the best for me, the XL2546K feels faster in terms of input lag but overall i think the XL2566K is better because 360hz (especially since maybe Apex Legends will uncap the 300FPS limitation in the coming months since they will move the game to Source 2)

The BenQs are good but always leave a feeling of boredom because of the coil whine but especially because TN, sometimes you will lose your duel because of the color clipping of the TN because the red will necessarily be "burned"

On the other hand, if I put myself in "tryhard" mode, I play very well on BenQ screen, currently I separated from the Acer XV272UX, I was with it for more than a year and in the end I almost never play in 1440p on it (yes because it's a 1440p) because I didn't like the feeling of 1440p and this one especially had a really garbage Overdrive (the off/normal mode was laggy, for example when an enemy shot me and there was too much recoil, it looks like I had a loss of FPS/micro stutters but no, it's just the screen that is unstable, that's what happens when your screen that has a really horrible refresh compliance and it was slow and the latest mode of overdrive have a tons of overshoot)

Hope you can find what you want, what is your use ? only competitive gaming ? only Apex Legends ?
So in the end of the day you find the vg279qm the best monitor for apex legends in your eyes?
what about the panels? I remember something about two panels and only one of them good in the vg259qm

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Re: VG279QM still worth it in 2023 ?

Post by Sirius » 27 Jul 2023, 10:55

MatrixQW wrote:
27 Jul 2023, 06:12
Sirius wrote:
25 Jul 2023, 06:50
MatrixQW wrote:
15 Jul 2023, 10:02
it's amazing. No blur, no ghosting, no nothing at 280Hz.
This is one of the best if not the best 240/280Hz monitor.
I'm very sensitive to latency, so I know what I'm talking about.
Ok, I just got it today.

Very good anti-reflective treatment though!

I will come back when I have tested it more.
Use 280Hz with OD 80 and set color temperature to normal to see white as white.
Yeah 280hz + OD 80 is pretty good for a random 27 inch 1080p at only 330 euro !

but why "normal" color temperature ? i prefer custom personally.
Current temporary test : none | Main monitor : Acer XV272UX | I had : 1080P : XL2546X / XL2566K / XL2546K / XL2546 / XL2540K / XL2746S / EX2510 / MAG251RX / NXG253R / MAG271CR / VG259QM / VG258QM / XG249CM / XG259CM / VG279QM / S2522HG / XG2431 / XG2405 / XG2702 / AW2518HF / AW2521HF / AW2720HF / 24G2U / Omen X 25 | 1440P : XV272UX / MAG274QRF-QD / MSI MAG 274QRF-QD E2 / 27GP850 / 27GN850 / AW2723DF / Omen X 27 / XG27AQM / XG27AQMR / S2721DGFA / Odyssey G7 / EX270QM / VG27AQML1A / XENEON 27QHD240 / XV272UKF / XV272UX 4K : U28G2XU2 / M32UC

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Re: VG279QM still worth it in 2023 ?

Post by MatrixQW » 27 Jul 2023, 11:26

Sirius wrote:
27 Jul 2023, 10:55
MatrixQW wrote:
27 Jul 2023, 06:12
Use 280Hz with OD 80 and set color temperature to normal to see white as white.
Yeah 280hz + OD 80 is pretty good for a random 27 inch 1080p at only 330 euro !

but why "normal" color temperature ? i prefer custom personally.
Mine was 290€ on Amazon !

I told you, the white color will be white, at default user mode it's yellowish

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Re: VG279QM still worth it in 2023 ?

Post by Exile » 29 Jul 2023, 23:18

How’s your experience with this monitor and the xg259cm? seeing that you’re currently testing out both of these monitors. I’m stuck on deciding between two of these, heard that vg279qm only worth it if you could get the quisda panel

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