What should be the best input lag settings for my setup and Valorant?

[vguser44]

I don't have much idea about FSO and FSE, I've never tried them anyway. I don't have the opportunity to try a different mouse, I only have G PRO SUPERLIGHT. But there is one thing I know about my mouse: When the charge is 100%, I feel much more performance and lag, but if the charge drops to 50% or below, I feel more delayed.

Here is the test you want
https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbl ... e69e116309

The mouse could be part of the issue, did you turn off the battery saving function in the software, and power saving in Device Manager? The settings in Device Manager will often turn back on because 1. you changed ports 2. Windows reassigned USB order on startup.

Do you know the polling rate of the mouse and keyboard? Above 1000hz can cause problems, since Windows wasn't designed for it and had to add a patch in Windows 11 for this specific issue.

It looks like the network connection isn't achieving low latency for gaming. I'm guessing the gameplay is mostly lag-free except when other players are nearby, or when you try to take on a fight. You can try some different things to mitigate it on the client side, but it may not fully fix the issue. Here is a recent post about it:

For anyone who has fiber and also high bufferbloat, it looks like it's being caused by 10G -> 1G buffering. You can somewhat alleviate the issue by using SQM (Cake, fq_codel) but the underlying issue will remain.



https://fasterdata.es.net/network-tunin ... ze-issues/

Switches are usually 48 ports, so having a 10G uplink and 40 1G connections will completely saturate the switch under peak times, which leads to buffering and delayed or dropped packets. If you're experiencing this, maybe your ISP will fix it, or maybe you will have to find a better connection.

Some settings that might help on the client side:
Jumbo Frame (MTU 9KB)
Flow Control (Intel network adapter setting)
netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled (Turns off TCP auto-tuning in Windows. Default setting is "normal")

These three settings solve my 70% problem, its so close to finish the input lag. Please tell me if there is more setting like these three.

Check here for more solutions:
https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bl ... Solutions/

It looks like my suggestions above aren't listed in the solutions, as I sourced them elsewhere. The author of this site is an expert on the subject and I would defer to his advice.

Additionally, it appears to be such a widespread issue that changing ISPs may not help.

In the device manager, in the "Mouse and other pointing devices" section, my mouse appears as a HID-compatible mouse. It does not say Logitech G PRO SUPERLIGHT. I disabled Power saving on most devices and USB ports in the device manager, but I could not find such a thing in the Logitech software. Keyboard and Mouse set to 1000 Hz.

[vguser44]

The screen I use locks from 280 Hz to 144 Hz almost every 10 starts. This is a chronic problem, but when I turn the monitor off and on again, the problem goes away. Maybe it will be useful to you.

[imprecise]

The screen I use locks from 280 Hz to 144 Hz almost every 10 starts. This is a chronic problem, but when I turn the monitor off and on again, the problem goes away. Maybe it will be useful to you.

Unplug the Displayport cable and plug it back in, and make sure it's all the way in. If it continues, it's likely a bad cable or bad port.

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Oh yeah you have AMD, replace the Intel Management Engine with AMD PSP.

Logitech software screenshot:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=10940&p=97724&hili ... ech#p97724

[vguser44]

The screen I use locks from 280 Hz to 144 Hz almost every 10 starts. This is a chronic problem, but when I turn the monitor off and on again, the problem goes away. Maybe it will be useful to you.

Unplug the Displayport cable and plug it back in, and make sure it's all the way in. If it continues, it's likely a bad cable or bad port.

dmps.png

Oh yeah you have AMD, replace the Intel Management Engine with AMD PSP.

Logitech software screenshot:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=10940&p=97724&hili ... ech#p97724

I also doubt that the problem may be in the cable. The picture you sent is valid for G PRO Wireless. There is no such option for Superlight.

[imprecise]

I don't have much idea about FSO and FSE, I've never tried them anyway. I don't have the opportunity to try a different mouse, I only have G PRO SUPERLIGHT. But there is one thing I know about my mouse: When the charge is 100%, I feel much more performance and low input lag, but if the charge drops to 50% or below, I feel more input lag

Find the Valorant exe and apply this setting:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=11799&p=97706&hili ... ion#p97706

The screen I use locks from 280 Hz to 144 Hz almost every 10 starts. This is a chronic problem, but when I turn the monitor off and on again, the problem goes away. Maybe it will be useful to you.

Unplug the Displayport cable and plug it back in, and make sure it's all the way in. If it continues, it's likely a bad cable or bad port.

dmps.png

Oh yeah you have AMD, replace the Intel Management Engine with AMD PSP.

Logitech software screenshot:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=10940&p=97724&hili ... ech#p97724

I also doubt that the problem may be in the cable. The picture you sent is valid for G PRO Wireless. There is no such option for Superlight.

DisplayPort cables have serious quality control issues. They also can degrade over time due to the high amount of data being pushed through them.

The superlight may not have this option due to it being designed with pro gamers in mind. [EDIT: This is not a recommendation btw, I have gone through enough Logitech mice that I will no longer buy their products]

Please let us know if you contact your ISP about the connection quality and if they help.

[vguser44]

I don't have much idea about FSO and FSE, I've never tried them anyway. I don't have the opportunity to try a different mouse, I only have G PRO SUPERLIGHT. But there is one thing I know about my mouse: When the charge is 100%, I feel much more performance and low input lag, but if the charge drops to 50% or below, I feel more input lag

Find the Valorant exe and apply this setting:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=11799&p=97706&hili ... ion#p97706

I turned this on and tried it and didn't feel any difference.

[imprecise]

I don't have much idea about FSO and FSE, I've never tried them anyway. I don't have the opportunity to try a different mouse, I only have G PRO SUPERLIGHT. But there is one thing I know about my mouse: When the charge is 100%, I feel much more performance and low input lag, but if the charge drops to 50% or below, I feel more input lag

Find the Valorant exe and apply this setting:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=11799&p=97706&hili ... ion#p97706

I turned this on and tried it and didn't feel any difference.

That sounds like a good result... sounds like you're just dealing with internet and possibly keyboard/mouse input lag.

[vguser44]

I don't have much idea about FSO and FSE, I've never tried them anyway. I don't have the opportunity to try a different mouse, I only have G PRO SUPERLIGHT. But there is one thing I know about my mouse: When the charge is 100%, I feel much more performance and low input lag, but if the charge drops to 50% or below, I feel more input lag

Find the Valorant exe and apply this setting:

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=11799&p=97706&hili ... ion#p97706

I turned this on and tried it and didn't feel any difference.

That sounds like a good result... sounds like you're just dealing with internet and possibly keyboard/mouse input lag.

Yes thank you but I have no idea how to solve it. I need to fix keyboard and mouse lag
Are my LatencyMon values ok?

[imprecise]

Yes thank you but I have no idea how to solve it. I need to fix keyboard and mouse lag
Are my LatencyMon values ok?

I didn't see anything obvious in LatencyMon, but I don't think it's a very useful tool beyond testing if there are big spikes.

For internet, do the standard reset router and pc. Make sure the network card power savings are turned off. Try keeping the network cable unplugged from router WAN port for 30 minutes to help reset the switch port on the provider end. Try a new network cable. If you still have bufferbloat, call ISP and see if they will fix it.

You can mitigate some of the bloat on your client side, as I shared above, but it will not turn it into a good connection if that bloat isn't fixed by the ISP.

For the mouse and keyboard... try different devices, different USB ports, make sure power saving is off in device manager. The power saving setting will be on by default if you switch to a new port. Try lower frequency, 500hz each maybe. Exceeding 1000hz on USB can cause heavy negative acceleration feeling on the mouse.

[vguser44]

Yes thank you but I have no idea how to solve it. I need to fix keyboard and mouse lag
Are my LatencyMon values ok?

I didn't see anything obvious in LatencyMon, but I don't think it's a very useful tool beyond testing if there are big spikes.

For internet, do the standard reset router and pc. Make sure the network card power savings are turned off. Try keeping the network cable unplugged from router WAN port for 30 minutes to help reset the switch port on the provider end. Try a new network cable. If you still have bufferbloat, call ISP and see if they will fix it.

You can mitigate some of the bloat on your client side, as I shared above, but it will not turn it into a good connection if that bloat isn't fixed by the ISP.

For the mouse and keyboard... try different devices, different USB ports, make sure power saving is off in device manager. The power saving setting will be on by default if you switch to a new port. Try lower frequency, 500hz each maybe. Exceeding 1000hz on USB can cause heavy negative acceleration feeling on the mouse.

Will turning on G-SYNC reduce my input lag?