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Re: FrameView measures "PC Latency" now

Posted: 18 Nov 2022, 12:33
by inputlag_since_2006
forcedreg wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 11:25
Is there a list of supported games? The link goes to 404 error for me.

This tool could be useful if there was a a database of typical results with different setups.
any game that have reflex SDKintegrated

Re: FrameView measures "PC Latency" now

Posted: 18 Nov 2022, 15:39
by Brainlet
Scroll down and set your region to US (bottom right corner), then load the original URL again.

Re: FrameView measures "PC Latency" now

Posted: 18 Nov 2022, 17:42
by Chief Blur Buster
Brainlet wrote:
12 Nov 2022, 10:08
FrameView
User Guide for 1.4
Supported games
If you get an error loading these sites, scroll to the bottom and select United States as your region, then load the original URL again.
Thanks for editing the post up to date.

FrameView is fantastic stuff, also very useful for developers to help debug the Milliseconds Matters issues!

I've cloned this post in some other key areas of this forum, because I want to highlight this software.

[BTW, we are hiring an extra writer for the main website, so new articles should begin showing up before the Holidays. I think we'll push FrameView too, that way]

Re: FrameView measures "PC Latency" now

Posted: 20 Nov 2022, 07:35
by FPSMaster
I tested Interrupt moderation on vs off. Setting it off, the CPU will manage network interrupts, which should be better if you have a bad network adapter. In my case, I have a 5 year old motherboard with a bad network adapter.

Interrupt moderation ON: Game feels really laggy in terms of server connection. Players desync, bad hitreg.
+2ms average PC Latency

Interrupt moderation OFF: Server connection feels noticeable better. Lower ping by 4ms. Hitreg is much better including the desync. But the CPU had to do some more work. +5% CPU Utilization!
-2ms average PC Latency

Re: FrameView measures "PC Latency" now

Posted: 20 Nov 2022, 07:52
by FPSMaster
GPU Msi Mode ON vs OFF
MSI Mode OFF: more frametime spikes! +6ms Max Latency
MSI Mide ON: less frametime spikes! -6ms Max Latency

In my case MSI Mode didn't improve Min, Avg PC Latency but instead the Max Latency numbers. Setting the GPU to MSI Mode is good for more consistent FPS/Better Frametimes and less Latency spikes. Compared to other settings I tested, MSI Mode has a big influence on frametimes which cause Latency differences.

Re: FrameView measures "PC Latency" now

Posted: 20 Nov 2022, 14:23
by Maucasoli
FPSMaster wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 07:52
GPU Msi Mode ON vs OFF
MSI Mode OFF: more frametime spikes! +6ms Max Latency
MSI Mide ON: less frametime spikes! -6ms Max Latency

In my case MSI Mode didn't improve Min, Avg PC Latency but instead the Max Latency numbers. Setting the GPU to MSI Mode is good for more consistent FPS/Better Frametimes and less Latency spikes. Compared to other settings I tested, MSI Mode has a big influence on frametimes which cause Latency differences.
Thank you for posting results. Could you also test the msi priority setting like gpu or usb as high?

Re: FrameView measures "PC Latency" now

Posted: 20 Nov 2022, 20:05
by FPSMaster
Maucasoli wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 14:23
FPSMaster wrote:
20 Nov 2022, 07:52
GPU Msi Mode ON vs OFF
MSI Mode OFF: more frametime spikes! +6ms Max Latency
MSI Mide ON: less frametime spikes! -6ms Max Latency

In my case MSI Mode didn't improve Min, Avg PC Latency but instead the Max Latency numbers. Setting the GPU to MSI Mode is good for more consistent FPS/Better Frametimes and less Latency spikes. Compared to other settings I tested, MSI Mode has a big influence on frametimes which cause Latency differences.
Thank you for posting results. Could you also test the msi priority setting like gpu or usb as high?
I tested with both on high. Note that frameview can't messure mouse "click to picture delay" or any kind mouse tweaks (like increasing Polling rate, testing DPI lag or changing mouse buffer, etc)
Same applies for the monitor. FrameView 1.4 "only" measures the PCs Latency, which plays the main role in terms of lag. So it's not of a big deal, because mice have a very small impact.

Re: FrameView measures "PC Latency" now

Posted: 24 Nov 2022, 18:12
by F1zus
AMD graphics cards do not display the game overlay with render latency indicators. Is there any program to measure render latency for amd graphics cards?
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