BIOS HPET HIDDEN AND INPUT LAG

[imprecise]

Honestly, no one, in their good mind, never messing with HPET, TSC or edit mouse packets in registry or other deep settings like DWM priority, SCEWIN, etc. Look at ppl on your server (any game). Do you still believe they know about these tweaks? They only know about mouse settings in windowz cpanel. Maximum of their knowledge is "disable fullscreen optimizations tweak. But they still perfoms well and never complain about the lag. We are small % of ppl, with this "problem" (?)

Complete fabrication of reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF-jpouz7b8
Skip ahead to 3:25 for benchmarks.

[InputLagger]

Honestly, no one, in their good mind, never messing with HPET, TSC or edit mouse packets in registry or other deep settings like DWM priority, SCEWIN, etc. Look at ppl on your server (any game). Do you still believe they know about these tweaks? They only know about mouse settings in windowz cpanel. Maximum of their knowledge is "disable fullscreen optimizations tweak. But they still perfoms well and never complain about the lag. We are small % of ppl, with this "problem" (?)

Complete fabrication of reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF-jpouz7b8
Skip ahead to 3:25 for benchmarks.

I'm not fabricate anything. I'm telling what clearly almost no one players you ever met in many random multi-player games, lobbies not doing such deep tweaks. I'm not denying some latency problems, they exist (only the perfection doesn't exists). You don't get my point

[imprecise]

I'm not fabricate anything. I'm telling what clearly almost no one players you ever met in many random multi-player games, lobbies not doing such deep tweaks. I'm not denying some latency problems, they exist (only the perfection doesn't exists). You don't get my point

Performance tweaks have always been necessary for competitive games. There are lots of players who are unaware and never reach their potential, no matter how much effort they put in. A lot of players have literally 300-500ms disadvantage in games where 1-5ms are crucial to surviving. In my opinion this is a huge limitation esports is facing, because for a sport to be worth any attention it has to have a lot of people competing at their best, not whatever lagginess MS deems is ok for an office computer running Office Suite. Windows keeps adding background apps that drain real-time resources from the PC. We can still turn these off to get back to a real-time responsiveness feeling. Default settings do not achieve this, and you will not find any pros who have not optimized their settings. AMD systems tend to need 3x more settings tweaking than Intel, and have lower quality motherboards in general.

[cursed-gamer]

I'm not fabricate anything. I'm telling what clearly almost no one players you ever met in many random multi-player games, lobbies not doing such deep tweaks. I'm not denying some latency problems, they exist (only the perfection doesn't exists). You don't get my point

Performance tweaks have always been necessary for competitive games. There are lots of players who are unaware and never reach their potential, no matter how much effort they put in. A lot of players have literally 300-500ms disadvantage in games where 1-5ms are crucial to surviving. In my opinion this is a huge limitation esports is facing, because for a sport to be worth any attention it has to have a lot of people competing at their best, not whatever lagginess MS deems is ok for an office computer running Office Suite. Windows keeps adding background apps that drain real-time resources from the PC. We can still turn these off to get back to a real-time responsiveness feeling. Default settings do not achieve this, and you will not find any pros who have not optimized their settings. AMD systems tend to need 3x more settings tweaking than Intel, and have lower quality motherboards in general.

All performance tweaks except game/nvidia settings are worthless as long as you didn't fix hitreg/desync issue. Suggest me a performance tweak to fight this:

https://streamable.com/4me0kn

or this

https://streamable.com/yr4ybo

[imprecise]

All performance tweaks except game/nvidia settings are worthless as long as you didn't fix hitreg/desync issue. Suggest me a performance tweak to fight this:

https://streamable.com/4me0kn

or this

https://streamable.com/yr4ybo

1st video there is sv server lag, it's in net_graph and the death is slight interpolation. This is potentially fixable through optimizing network performance.

2nd video the player with ak gets shot from the left affecting accuracy and movement. This is part of the game.

Edit: watched this again from PC, the hit from the front was the issue, not the new attacker from the left. The player with the ak got hit and did not recover correctly in order to achieve accuracy. The left to right mouse swipe was ended too soon and he swung back out to the left during initial shots. It's completely possible there was a network aimpunch involved that may not have happened on LAN.

[cursed-gamer]

All performance tweaks except game/nvidia settings are worthless as long as you didn't fix hitreg/desync issue. Suggest me a performance tweak to fight this:

https://streamable.com/4me0kn

or this

https://streamable.com/yr4ybo

1st video there is sv server lag, it's in net_graph and the death is slight interpolation. This is potentially fixable through optimizing network performance.

2nd video the player with ak gets shot from the left affecting accuracy and movement. This is part of the game.

Your idea about the game is adequate to your performance tweaks. There is no server lag, it happens on every server, any day, any time. I can record full lenght movie about that in just 3-4 days of playing. Random teleports show, that there are drops in transmission so the game extrapolates or "dead reckon" positions and the problem is not on my or server side but only on ISP side because this is how they handle UDP traffic.

There is no any accuracy and movement affection. I can do this: https://streamable.com/gkg09z whole day with bots and there will be correct accuracy and hitreg. The best possible tweak is to change your low-tier-netflix&speedtest-compatibile internet to a decent one instead of some pseudo-wise tweaks which many can't even explain why to use them.

[DudeBeFishing]

No idea how to disable it in the bios if the option isn't there. Reach out to Gigabyte support. There might be a hotkey to unhide some settings, or they might give you a unreleased bios with that option enabled.

HPET Enabled gave me nothing but problems on AM3+ and LGA1366 motherboards with Windows 7. Enabling it lowers the average framerate, and causes massive fps drops while turning the camera. There is a 32bit/64bit HPET option on some boards. Not sure what the difference is. Both settings have similar performance loss.

I have not tested HPET with Windows 10 or a newer platform than AM3+.

The game that suffered the most performance loss was APB Reloaded. With HPET Enabled, the max fps was stuck at around 90fps, and it would drop below 30fps while moving the mouse. It was freezing / stuttering, not just low fps. With HPET Disabled, the average framerate was about 120fps, and it didn't drop while moving the mouse.

[Tiarlden]

HPET is disabled by def in windows, but TSC can use that for correct timer.
anyway, if you want disable HPET in bios, always make sure deletevalue useplatformtick / useplaftformclock.
You can disable bios via GRUB, scewin, mod bios, or like that.
(im post guide on this forum how find hidden settings in bios file and use grub to change settings)

hey can you help me disable hpet in bios? its hidden for me and idk how to use those programs you listed

[Hyote]

HPET is disabled by def in windows, but TSC can use that for correct timer.
anyway, if you want disable HPET in bios, always make sure deletevalue useplatformtick / useplaftformclock.
You can disable bios via GRUB, scewin, mod bios, or like that.
(im post guide on this forum how find hidden settings in bios file and use grub to change settings)

hey can you help me disable hpet in bios? its hidden for me and idk how to use those programs you listed

I'll upload SCEWIN to my github later. Chief removed it from here because it wasn't the open source program but there isn't one anymore. At least not the easy to use version. I downloaded this from another guy based solely on trust but obviously I scanned the hell out of it first.
To use it you need to click on the Export.bat and edit the nvram.txt by moving the "*" for each setting you want to change. You click on the Import.bat afterwards and there you go, BIOS settings changed instantly.
Also I changed every setting mentioned in guides which is more than 100 and have some ones I personally experimented with. Even with all of those and HPET disabled everywhere I still have input lag. Not exactly input lag but something definitely feels off. Waiting for an 8000 Hz mouse to arrive to see if it could be the final piece of the puzzle

[JimCarry]

HPET is disabled by def in windows, but TSC can use that for correct timer.
anyway, if you want disable HPET in bios, always make sure deletevalue useplatformtick / useplaftformclock.
You can disable bios via GRUB, scewin, mod bios, or like that.
(im post guide on this forum how find hidden settings in bios file and use grub to change settings)

hey can you help me disable hpet in bios? its hidden for me and idk how to use those programs you listed

I'll upload SCEWIN to my github later. Chief removed it from here because it wasn't the open source program but there isn't one anymore. At least not the easy to use version. I downloaded this from another guy based solely on trust but obviously I scanned the hell out of it first.
To use it you need to click on the Export.bat and edit the nvram.txt by moving the "*" for each setting you want to change. You click on the Import.bat afterwards and there you go, BIOS settings changed instantly.
Also I changed every setting mentioned in guides which is more than 100 and have some ones I personally experimented with. Even with all of those and HPET disabled everywhere I still have input lag. Not exactly input lag but something definitely feels off. Waiting for an 8000 Hz mouse to arrive to see if it could be the final piece of the puzzle