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Re: Timer resolution becomes 0.5 instead of 0.526 when playing games.
Posted: 12 Mar 2025, 00:56
by JimCarry
Slender wrote: ↑12 Mar 2025, 00:37
JimCarry wrote: ↑11 Mar 2025, 18:21
I have win 10 and no bcdedit stuff,i set mine to 0,also i think hpet changes this value maybe if you have the option try on or off?
hpet can affect on timer value only if useplatformtick be enable.
for you i think 0.5013 best value.
i am not sure i agree with you,on my old mb i did have clean bcdedit, and when turning on or off HPET current timer resolution was changing,however on my new mb i cant even see HPET so i cant change it at all,so did i make it ?
Re: Timer resolution becomes 0.5 instead of 0.526 when playing games.
Posted: 12 Mar 2025, 05:02
by dermodemon
Shekoup wrote: ↑11 Mar 2025, 14:36
you found a solution ?
Nope. I gave up
Re: Timer resolution becomes 0.5 instead of 0.526 when playing games.
Posted: 12 Mar 2025, 10:06
by TN_fun
https://youtu.be/vt1n4j9lWF0?si=YonEELLE6dqKTKzR
You need to watch this video, so you can reduce the timer resolution. Without running dpclat in the background, the timer resolution does not change. I don't know how true this is.
But this benchmark that you use immediately shows a decrease in slept from 15 to 2 ms. On Windows 11, this slept becomes 1 ms
Re: Timer resolution becomes 0.5 instead of 0.526 when playing games.
Posted: 12 Mar 2025, 11:20
by JimCarry
TN_fun wrote: ↑12 Mar 2025, 10:06
https://youtu.be/vt1n4j9lWF0?si=YonEELLE6dqKTKzR
You need to watch this video, so you can reduce the timer resolution. Without running dpclat in the background, the timer resolution does not change. I don't know how true this is.
But this benchmark that you use immediately shows a decrease in slept from 15 to 2 ms. On Windows 11, this slept becomes 1 ms
So about this sh@t i saw this first time from this guy
https://youtu.be/4VknzAMjPxE?t=496 many people said that using the "dpclat.exe" is costing more perfomance then without it?
Re: Timer resolution becomes 0.5 instead of 0.526 when playing games.
Posted: 12 Mar 2025, 15:22
by TN_fun
JimCarry wrote: ↑12 Mar 2025, 11:20
TN_fun wrote: ↑12 Mar 2025, 10:06
https://youtu.be/vt1n4j9lWF0?si=YonEELLE6dqKTKzR
You need to watch this video, so you can reduce the timer resolution. Without running dpclat in the background, the timer resolution does not change. I don't know how true this is.
But this benchmark that you use immediately shows a decrease in slept from 15 to 2 ms. On Windows 11, this slept becomes 1 ms
So about this sh@t i saw this first time from this guy
https://youtu.be/4VknzAMjPxE?t=496 many people said that using the "dpclat.exe" is costing more perfomance then without it?
I don't know. This guy in the video shows that you can put a DPС check on pause, yes it works.
But I don't understand how this guy in your video got a 1ms slept and such a low delta.
Re: Timer resolution becomes 0.5 instead of 0.526 when playing games.
Posted: 12 Mar 2025, 17:46
by JimCarry
TN_fun wrote: ↑12 Mar 2025, 15:22
JimCarry wrote: ↑12 Mar 2025, 11:20
TN_fun wrote: ↑12 Mar 2025, 10:06
https://youtu.be/vt1n4j9lWF0?si=YonEELLE6dqKTKzR
You need to watch this video, so you can reduce the timer resolution. Without running dpclat in the background, the timer resolution does not change. I don't know how true this is.
But this benchmark that you use immediately shows a decrease in slept from 15 to 2 ms. On Windows 11, this slept becomes 1 ms
So about this sh@t i saw this first time from this guy
https://youtu.be/4VknzAMjPxE?t=496 many people said that using the "dpclat.exe" is costing more perfomance then without it?
I don't know. This guy in the video shows that you can put a DPС check on pause, yes it works.
But I don't understand how this guy in your video got a 1ms slept and such a low delta.
He has so low delta because his timer resolution is not 5000 is 5066(i am not sure 100%),but that does not change the fact the i can have the same delta as him in the video on win 10 but for do that i must run "dpclat.exe" 24/7 even if i pres on it to "stop",and thats what i am asking again for the second time,is it better ro run only steam.exe and cs2.exe for example,because with "dpclat.exe" yeah delta is 0,but the "dpclat.exe" is costing perfomance more then is helping right ?
Re: Timer resolution becomes 0.5 instead of 0.526 when playing games.
Posted: 12 Mar 2025, 18:24
by TN_fun
JimCarry wrote: ↑12 Mar 2025, 17:46
TN_fun wrote: ↑12 Mar 2025, 15:22
JimCarry wrote: ↑12 Mar 2025, 11:20
TN_fun wrote: ↑12 Mar 2025, 10:06
https://youtu.be/vt1n4j9lWF0?si=YonEELLE6dqKTKzR
You need to watch this video, so you can reduce the timer resolution. Without running dpclat in the background, the timer resolution does not change. I don't know how true this is.
But this benchmark that you use immediately shows a decrease in slept from 15 to 2 ms. On Windows 11, this slept becomes 1 ms
So about this sh@t i saw this first time from this guy
https://youtu.be/4VknzAMjPxE?t=496 many people said that using the "dpclat.exe" is costing more perfomance then without it?
I don't know. This guy in the video shows that you can put a DPС check on pause, yes it works.
But I don't understand how this guy in your video got a 1ms slept and such a low delta.
He has so low delta because his timer resolution is not 5000 is 5066(i am not sure 100%),but that does not change the fact the i can have the same delta as him in the video on win 10 but for do that i must run "dpclat.exe" 24/7 even if i pres on it to "stop",and thats what i am asking again for the second time,is it better ro run only steam.exe and cs2.exe for example,because with "dpclat.exe" yeah delta is 0,but the "dpclat.exe" is costing perfomance more then is helping right ?
I made the same value as he has 5066 (tried others too) - slept is 1.5 ms.
I haven't found a way to make slept 1 ms yet.
As for your question about performance - I don't know. I need to play for a few days to understand if there is a big difference. So far I like it. I played with dpc check without even pausing it. I don't think that if you pause it it will worsen performance.
Re: Timer resolution becomes 0.5 instead of 0.526 when playing games.
Posted: 12 Mar 2025, 18:54
by JimCarry
TN_fun wrote: ↑12 Mar 2025, 18:24
JimCarry wrote: ↑12 Mar 2025, 17:46
TN_fun wrote: ↑12 Mar 2025, 15:22
I don't know. This guy in the video shows that you can put a DPС check on pause, yes it works.
But I don't understand how this guy in your video got a 1ms slept and such a low delta.
He has so low delta because his timer resolution is not 5000 is 5066(i am not sure 100%),but that does not change the fact the i can have the same delta as him in the video on win 10 but for do that i must run "dpclat.exe" 24/7 even if i pres on it to "stop",and thats what i am asking again for the second time,is it better ro run only steam.exe and cs2.exe for example,because with "dpclat.exe" yeah delta is 0,but the "dpclat.exe" is costing perfomance more then is helping right ?
I made the same value as he has 5066 (tried others too) - slept is 1.5 ms.
I haven't found a way to make slept 1 ms yet.
As for your question about performance - I don't know. I need to play for a few days to understand if there is a big difference. So far I like it. I played with dpc check without even pausing it. I don't think that if you pause it it will worsen performance.
you must pause it if you watch the video i provide,but i still dont know should i use this tweak or not,because dpc must be running stoped or not it still runs ?
Re: Timer resolution becomes 0.5 instead of 0.526 when playing games.
Posted: 13 Mar 2025, 08:45
by TN_fun
JimCarry wrote: ↑12 Mar 2025, 18:54
you must pause it if you watch the video i provide,but i still dont know should i use this tweak or not,because dpc must be running stoped or not it still runs ?
I don't know. You have to decide for yourself what's best. I'll pause it today and see how it feels.
I still can't get to 1ms, it's 1.5ms.
Re: Timer resolution becomes 0.5 instead of 0.526 when playing games.
Posted: 13 Mar 2025, 13:48
by JimCarry
TN_fun wrote: ↑13 Mar 2025, 08:45
JimCarry wrote: ↑12 Mar 2025, 18:54
you must pause it if you watch the video i provide,but i still dont know should i use this tweak or not,because dpc must be running stoped or not it still runs ?
I don't know. You have to decide for yourself what's best. I'll pause it today and see how it feels.
I still can't get to 1ms, it's 1.5ms.
yeah until someone prove its better i am not using it.