⚡Intel/AMD Fix desync, input lag, heavy car bug, etc *FINAL UPDATE*⚡

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Re: ⚡Intel/AMD Fix desync, input lag, heavy car bug, etc *FINAL UPDATE*⚡

Post by jassine » 06 Jan 2025, 13:13

Z3CrosS wrote:
06 Jan 2025, 01:46
you can try to lower page faults
How to do that ?

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Re: ⚡Intel/AMD Fix desync, input lag, heavy car bug, etc *FINAL UPDATE*⚡

Post by Z3CrosS » 06 Jan 2025, 13:57

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Re: ⚡Intel/AMD Fix desync, input lag, heavy car bug, etc *FINAL UPDATE*⚡

Post by attxx » 07 Jan 2025, 15:51

Z3CrosS wrote:
06 Jan 2025, 13:57
jassine wrote:
06 Jan 2025, 13:13
Z3CrosS wrote:
06 Jan 2025, 01:46
you can try to lower page faults
How to do that ?
Truth is - i dont know :mrgreen: , i mean that i dont have time for everything, it was just a proposal because paging is very complex thing and related to ram management, so if you can decrease page fault you can increase PC smoothness. Naporitan did great job and spent so much time i think testing and creating this article. I think his goal is to make a big one Article to make aka "all in one / all included" in one place to help people with legit things. That's why i decided to propose about paging, its huge work and do not expect 20-50% page fault decrease, but each % will give you % to PC smoothness, hypotetically direct or indirect things could lead for decreasing page faults. So i think it reasonable to try.

P.s on a hardware level i can advise to lower timings because timings lead to smoothness, 9000k mhz ram lead to raw performance (if you feel that on your system 300 monitor hertz feels worst than 240, so try to remove ram mhz OC and watch on better on lower timings and after that, on 240hz theoretically will be better experience). Sure must be balance and stability, so you have to catch it for your system. If you like your system, sure i can advise obvious thing - ram with better timings with 6k - 6400mhz, nowadays i think T-Create expert cl30 - is best affordable Ram, the best is Dominator Titanium ofc :mrgreen: . Im not promoting.
I just decided to share my toughts and i think that on a software level you can improve ram management which could lead to decreasing page faults and vice versa.
You're saying to try to stay you jedec/base ram clocks or downclock xmp ?

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Re: ⚡Intel/AMD Fix desync, input lag, heavy car bug, etc *FINAL UPDATE*⚡

Post by attxx » 08 Jan 2025, 14:42

naporitan wrote:
24 Nov 2024, 07:33
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Hi everyone, I've written a short guide on how to prepare a system based on AMD Ryzen processor for competitive FPS games, without any schizo-tweaks, like disabling HPET, etc.
( :idea: I highly recommend doing everything according to the point of this guide. If something is not specified in the guide, then I do not do these actions, because they are useless or harmful to the game expirience. For example: You want to change the system's power plan, and you don't need to do that...).

1 - Update BIOS to the latest version, after clear CMOS. Recommended bios settings: CSM support - disabled, Secure Boot - Enabled/standart/UEFI (Before installing a new system I recommend to reset the keys to default), TPM - enabled. (Should be enabled by default and before installing a new system I recommend to set “TPM clear” in pending operation), XMP - enabled. SVM - Disabled. Resize Bar - disabled. I also do not recommend to connect RGB coolers via USB (more about this later).

2 - Before installing the system, I recommend formatting and converting your main disk for the system: 1, 2.

3 - 0.1 - After completing the system installation and connecting the internet to your PC, I recommend setting the network mode to “Public”, and in the time settings set your region/city and click on synchronize. 0.2 - Next you need to update the system through settings, and install optional drivers/updates - this is extremely important! 0.3 - After updating the system, launch Microsoft Store and update all applications; this is necessary so that nothing will be downloaded in the background in the future, and it is important to have up-to-date versions (Xbox Game Bar, DVR link). 0.4 - The next step is to download drivers from the official motherboard website and install them (this is important :!: ).
( :!: Don't forget to install the driver for your SSD drive from the manufacturer's official website. )

4 - Let's get to installing and configuring your video card: I strongly recommend not uninstalling the driver using the DDU utility. Just download a fresh driver from the official website of the video card manufacturer, run the installer by selecting the video driver and experience/app package and install it by checking the “clean install” box. ( :idea: The installer will automatically remove the old video card driver). :!: In the Experience/App settings, don't uncheck the boxes just agree with all the suggestions.


5 - :!: GPU settings: Set your monitor's native resolution and maximum refresh rate. Enable GPU scaling and activate the “Override scaling mode set for games and programs.” link.
Disable VSync in NVIDIA Contro Panel
Power management mode - Prefer maximum performance
Disable GSync technology, etc. in your monitor settings.
Disable HAGS in the system settings. link


6 - :!: Connect the mouse separately from other USB devices. More details about this are written here - viewtopic.php?f=10&t=7618 ). I want to add that you should not connect anything in one USB controller with the mouse and about RGB coolers, connecting them, you create unnecessary load on USB controllers. :!: For systems based on AMD Ryzen processors, connect the mouse to the port that is directly connected to the processor link .
:!: Some motherboards have usb ports with asmedia controller and I do not recommend connecting mouse, keyboard to such ports.
Set mouse debounce time to 0-1ms.
:!: I do not recommend downloading and running the program mousetester 1.5.3 etc.

7 - :!: I recommend turning off your browser while playing. (it's not relevant) :arrow: 💡 I highly recommend using Firefox browser with default settings instead of Chrome, as this browser has some fundamental issues affecting the system.

8 - :!: Having downloaded the game, it is necessary to activate the game mode for it. To do this, start the game and press the Win+G key. The Game Bar will open. On the Game Bar, select Settings > General and check the “Remember this is a game” link. ( :idea: After that you need to restart the game ).

9 - :!: Some games support Reflex/AntiLag, and you need to set it to off/disabled. ( :idea: I recommend setting the fps value to 500-999. It is highly NOT recommended to uncheck or remove the fps limit, as it causes various performance issues and bugs in the game engine link).
theory about NVIDIA REFLEX:

When we turn the steering wheel, press the pedals, press the buttons, all this and more is sent to the CPU for processing, then the CPU prepares frames and through the rendering queue passes them to the video card for processing, the video card sends the frames to the monitor. In ideal conditions the CPU transmits frame by frame to the GPU, and the latter in its turn processes these frames immediately without queue and sends them to the monitor. But in reality such a perfect balance between the GPU and CPU is rare.

If performance is bottlenecked by the CPU, i.e. when the CPU needs more time to prepare a frame than the GPU is able to process, then Reflex can't help in this case, because the GPU finishes its work and does nothing, waiting for the CPU to send the next frame.

When the performance is bottlenecked by the GPU, it turns out that the CPU produces frames faster (more) than the GPU can use, resulting in a lot of frames in the render queue that the GPU has to process - to select the latest ones.

In this case Reflex acts as a messenger between the GPU and the CPU, telling the CPU when the graphics card is ready for a new frame. As a result, the CPU does less work creating extra frames that will never be used, and the GPU has to sort through fewer outdated frames. In sum, Reflex reduces the number of frames in the render queue, which allows for faster visual information about your own actions - steering wheel movements, pedal presses, in general, input latency is reduced.
  • :!: Always reboot your computer the first time you turn it on as the system has a bug that can cause various bugs. link
  • :!: Recommended settings for CS2 - 1, 2
  • :!: Disable “isolation core” in security settings. (You also need to disable SVM in the BIOS). link.
  • :!: Do not use goodbyedpi, etc., as this program changes the operation of the udp protocol and can therefore cause various problems in online games viewtopic.php?f=15&t=14025&start=10#p110501 ( :shock: According to some rumors, it may be installed in computer clubs to watch YouTube, etc.)
  • :!: I don’t recommend streaming from your main PC when playing FPS shooters. Buy a separate PCIE card for streaming or a second PC.
  • :!: Anti-cheat from fastcup platform can block drivers of many useful software/drivers/utilities here is a partial fix - https://imgur.com/taAtYGJ

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Additional system settings for convenience not affecting the expirience of the game.

1. In mouse settings I recommend unticking “Enable increased accuracy of pointer setting”.
2. Disable key sticking and input filtering in system settings/special features.
3. Check “No action required” when using the computer for conversations in the sound settings. (Increase the microphone level if the default level is low)
4. In the keyboard settings, reduce the delay before the repeat starts.
5. Disable OneDrive on startup using Task Manager
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⚡My computer is not grounded. I live in a very old house with aluminum wiring and I don't get any abnormal input lags. The whole theory about the influence of electrical/EMI/RFI interference on input lag is nonsense.⚡
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:!: It is very important to maintain a good daily routine. When you are mentally tired, everything in the game starts to speed up, and you slow down. It seems as if the system is not working properly, but the reason is in you. You do not need to go and change any settings, tweak the system, climb into the BIOS and turn off something. You just need to go and get a good night's sleep, and then enter the game with renewed energy. I will give you one life hack: make a regimen so that you are full of energy in the morning, and enter the ranked game and defeat mentally tired gamers. EZ ✌️.
🏴‍☠️Blacklist of tweakers and custom systems:

valleyofdoom / boringboredom / calypto / astrocrew / airo pc tuning / ice x tunerz / amit / etc
atlasos / revios / ggos / xos / kirbyos / etc
viewtopic.php?t=11799 *bad guide/tweaks*
viewtopic.php?t=10724 *bad guide/tweaks*

:idea: Why am I against these tweakers? Because they configure systems in real time, and this is not necessary for games - it causes a wild unstability. These tweakers have a lot of followers and therefore the list is not complete. (I have not yet seen a single normal tuner, they are all abnormal and their settings).
🖥️ General recommendations:

1 — Don't buy Razer mice (they have sensor defects and stupid imposition of their software). 2 — Better look at Lamzu atlantis, a good budget mouse at the top segment level. 3 — I don't recommend buying cheap mechanical keyboards, since the Key scan rate can be low. 4 — Try to buy a top segment motherboard, since they have a good element base. 5:!: For FPS shooters, I recommend taking control pads, for example, meow ultraaceaim. 6 — I recommend investing in a processor when assembling a PC, since FPS shooters are demanding on a single thread. 7 — If you play a lot, then be sure to buy CISA gaming arm sleeves ver. 1, it covers the palm, and the sebaceous glands will not spoil the pad so quickly. 8 — Buy ​​RAM with low timings. 9:!: Be sure to activate your system. 10 - :!: It is necessary to occasionally clean the mouse sensor with compressed air. 11 - :!: Glue good control glides or speed glides on your mouse depending on the game and your mousepad. 12 - :!: You need to monitor the condition of your mousepad so that it is not dirty, etc., as well as wipe the mouse glides with clean alcohol.
my pc:
cpu - ryzen 9 5950x
motherboard - asus rog crosshair vi extreme
water cooling - arctic cooling liquid Freezer II - 420
ram - gskill trident z royal 3600mhz cl14
gpu - msi rtx 3090 suprim x 24gb
ssd - samsung 970 evo plus 500gb
psu - super flower leadex titanium 850W
os - windows 10 home x64
aida64 - https://imgur.com/9DCLffv
My computer without a case lies on a glass skypad mat and without coolers, since it turns out to be something like an open stand.
Once a month I blow off the dust with compressed air and that’s it.
rtx 3090 +5950x heats the room very well🔥, my radiator is cold all winter
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Your system must be set up clearly as his tool, but you must be clear as well - chill.
My Secure Boot state comes off, "PCR7 Configuration - Elevation Required to View", "Device Encryption Support - Elevation Required to View"
Should I "force" enable bitlocker encryption for C: drive?

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Re: ⚡Intel/AMD Fix desync, input lag, heavy car bug, etc *FINAL UPDATE*⚡

Post by naporitan » 08 Jan 2025, 19:44

attxx wrote:
08 Jan 2025, 14:42
My Secure Boot state comes off, "PCR7 Configuration - Elevation Required to View", "Device Encryption Support - Elevation Required to View"
Should I "force" enable bitlocker encryption for C: drive?
No.

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Re: ⚡Intel/AMD Fix desync, input lag, heavy car bug, etc *FINAL UPDATE*⚡

Post by Z3CrosS » 09 Jan 2025, 03:07

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Re: ⚡Intel/AMD Fix desync, input lag, heavy car bug, etc *FINAL UPDATE*⚡

Post by attxx » 09 Jan 2025, 07:43

Thank you guys, I always tweaked my system but now I'm trying this clean way, even with a damaged system.. I noticed a great pagefault causer its "msmpeng.exe" aka windows defender.. should we add exclusions for the games or just let it be?

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Re: ⚡Intel/AMD Fix desync, input lag, heavy car bug, etc *FINAL UPDATE*⚡

Post by naporitan » 09 Jan 2025, 08:06

attxx wrote:
09 Jan 2025, 07:43
Thank you guys, I always tweaked my system but now I'm trying this clean way, even with a damaged system.. I noticed a great pagefault causer its "msmpeng.exe" aka windows defender.. should we add exclusions for the games or just let it be?
it doesn't make sense.

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Re: ⚡Intel/AMD Fix desync, input lag, heavy car bug, etc *FINAL UPDATE*⚡

Post by Z3CrosS » 09 Jan 2025, 12:51

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Re: ⚡Intel/AMD Fix desync, input lag, heavy car bug, etc *FINAL UPDATE*⚡

Post by themagic » 09 Jan 2025, 14:24

pagefaults are completely normal and has nothing to do with what you exprience when speak about hitreg and desync and the reaction time that you don't have if compare to enemy (with advantage over you) or the feel that your game are for somehow reason next match running slower (and even fps drops some even if same map) and everything starts to feel wrong and mouse even feels wrong than before and you hit nothing from that point on and it turns to completely shit...

but 1or 2 guy has always somehow advantage for whole match and over your teammates and even his own teammates..and scores crazy just by running and gun without brain...cause his hitreg just connects the right way than yours and in time and tick perfect.

while everyone in the match is tryharding to just get somehow 1-2 kills and win the match but which gonna then ends anyway always very close 12-13 or 13-12 and so on but 1 guy gonna have crazy amount of kills than everyone in this match and the mega carry magic skilled player....the pure skill esports online exprience and training matters. pattern ? no...just skill.

same about heavy car bug...
different game but same experience and issue and same shit going on where someone suffer more under this than others who have it rarely in matches and those atleast can play 10 matches in row without much such bullshit happen and dont have this heavy bug car experience much or it dont ruins them that much and there online gameplay experience...

the difference ? but no...many gonna call it shizo or just ping or just better skill and player and all the other dumbs gonna call it cheats and wallhack cause they dont have the brain to understand this and to see what is cheat and what is just bullshit.


i agree that cs2 has more cheats cases (which are clearly proofable and even blinds can see) than valorant but many players and many matches and in both games are hard delusional when it comes to cheaters and many of this NPC dont cant really detect and tell or proof and difference who really uses cheat or where just shit happens cause of the normal issues above and where dont even cheats are needed but just happens by design and huge disblance disadvantages issues and matchmakings and more and players who really suffer always same bad hitreg from match to match and always like on desync trip...


In short: for many this NPC and dumb Imbecile Idiots...Everyone who scores more or twice more than him kills or the top player in his own team = he probably clear cheat. That how it is or ?

Funny or ? but that exactly how this all Issue can make someone to an Cheater who don't even uses anything and just playing normal way and just has the prefect hitreg and correct working game and timings of his life from match to match and playing by fun...not even esports level guys.

and there exist many examples of such guys...

are they more skilled ? are they different than many millions of others when it comes to reaction time ? or is there online game just maybe working the right way and they have just the best fun of there life and dont even realize it how much fun and the advantage they have ?

in what you gonna believe more ? are such people using cheats or maybe there exist such guys who dont even need those and have just normal perfect working online gaming condition and these dont even aware of that they have it that good and such luck at that moment...like as example the 12 or 14 years old talents who perform better than some 18+ and 21+ years olds out there and have way better stats in just some months XD...while the old guys still tryharding and asking them themself what happen and why i cant do this...


delusional world with many people who dont even understand each other and what this all topic is really about....

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