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Re: Finding root cause/fix

Posted: 12 Sep 2026, 13:35
by MaleGigolo
playa wrote:
12 Sep 2026, 11:23
Templar_Warden wrote:
12 Sep 2026, 04:24
playa wrote:
12 Sep 2026, 03:24
MaleGigolo wrote:
11 Sep 2026, 20:42


Nonsense. You have no arguments and your coping that everyone has this problem when that is simply not true most people just turn on their PC and enjoy input lag free experience. You are susceptible to placebo like most tweakers that's why you claim this problem is a mix of everything because you make random changes and you think you achieved something. I guess keep moving cables and making random changes to your PC and still being stuck in low ranks while 99% of players don't have to do any of that and only have to practice to get better.
Idk about stuck in low ranks :DDD 26K in cs2 premier, faceit level 10
https://youtu.be/IEmEjae-TMg?is=dvDtTsFNFrlMIytU
everyone definitely does not have the issue, if you think so than you dont have the issue. at least the one i have.
I think everyone experience it, just on different levels. The ones in this forum are mostly players who have it really bad, that's why they have nothing else to do than try to figure it out. A lot of cs pro's are aware and have felt it, even joked around with it.
S1mple lost all his prestige cause of it.

The "iron theory" (or "turning on the iron") is an inside joke and meme originating from Counter-Strike 2 prodigy Danil "donk" Kryshkovets. The phrase comes from a Team Spirit video clip where donk joked that he needed to turn on a household clothes iron to fix his PC's input lag. In esports jargon, "iron theory" jokingly attributes his mechanical skills or a team's performance spike to this bizarre, fictional hardware optimization trick.
- Quick quote from Ai

I'm willing to bet i could change the way anyones pc behaves(different recoil/spread, mouse movement changing speed etc) just by playing with the cables, that shouldn't be possible and it means that there is something we don't know about in everyones hardware
S1mple never had this problem he was hanging vs best players in the world at the time when schizos like you were trying to convince themselves that he had a problem. Lost his prestige? He is ranked TOP 100 in Europe and hangs vs best players in the world. He wouldn't be able to perform at that level where a millisecond makes a difference if he had issues with input lag.


"A lot of cs pro's are aware and have felt it, even joked around with it."

They werent joking with it they were MOCKING guys like you.

The "iron theory" (or "turning on the iron") is an inside joke and meme originating from Counter-Strike 2 prodigy Danil "donk" Kryshkovets.

Dude you are embarassing. Why are you using ChatGPT lmao that is not even true Iron thing came from some random Russlan guy on youtube. It's literally a meme in the Russlan community no one takes it seriously.

"jokingly attributes his mechanical skills or a team's performance spike to this bizarre, fictional hardware optimization trick."

Do you actually believe this??

You are a moron.

Re: Finding root cause/fix

Posted: 12 Sep 2026, 13:39
by playa
Buying endless amount of useless stuff, moving around to different places and playing in the desert just to get to the point of thinking it's the human body? Who's the true moron here xDDD

Actually forget that, i do think your body is truly shit to the point of you not being able to do anything good, be it gaming or thinking haha

Re: Finding root cause/fix

Posted: 12 Sep 2026, 13:53
by MaleGigolo
playa wrote:
12 Sep 2026, 13:39
Buying endless amount of useless stuff, moving around to different places and playing in the desert just to get to the point of thinking it's the human body? Who's the true moron here xDDD

Actually forget that, i do think your body is truly shit to the point of you not being able to do anything good, be it gaming or thinking haha
Who is buying anything? I've never bought anything to solve this problem. Why are you lying lol. I'm not moving because of this problem I've moved because of better working opportunities and something called life. I've also never said that it is 100% human body I've only mentioned it in the context that it is an anomaly and that human body is the only thing that has stayed the same over the years and everyone can check my profile to see that. Funny coming from a guy that can't form a coherent sentence and claims that pro players are pro because they are allowed to be and not because their skill. Keep moving moving those cables and maybe one day Bill Gates will also allow you to be a pro player.

I read all your comments in Borat voice btw. That's what i imagine you look like with that broken English.

Re: Finding root cause/fix

Posted: 12 Sep 2026, 14:08
by playa
Ever consider that you're just shit at games? That there's no weird anomaly unsolvable problem, you're just seeing things and those pro players mock and laugh at you the same way. Or why are you here, what's that "it" you are talking about? Explain it slowly and in detail, so even Borat could understand you

Re: Finding root cause/fix

Posted: 12 Sep 2026, 14:42
by MaleGigolo
playa wrote:
12 Sep 2026, 14:08
Ever consider that you're just shit at games? That there's no weird anomaly unsolvable problem, you're just seeing things and those pro players mock and laugh at you the same way. Or why are you here, what's that "it" you are talking about? Explain it slowly and in detail, so even Borat could understand you
I haven't played games competitively for years but still reached Tekken God with 92% winrate. I could probably reached GoD of Destruction but don't see a point in playing with a massive disadvantage. I stopped playing again shortly after. Anyways... If you know anything about Tekken you would know that it is one of the hardest games ever made and game where you have 6,433 different moves and frames that you have to learn and react to. I've managed to consistently react to 16-18f moves despite dealing with this problem. Image


Now let's see your FACEIT?

Re: Finding root cause/fix

Posted: 12 Sep 2026, 14:48
by playa
MaleGigolo wrote:
12 Sep 2026, 14:42
playa wrote:
12 Sep 2026, 14:08
Ever consider that you're just shit at games? That there's no weird anomaly unsolvable problem, you're just seeing things and those pro players mock and laugh at you the same way. Or why are you here, what's that "it" you are talking about? Explain it slowly and in detail, so even Borat could understand you
I haven't played games competitively for years but still reached Tekken God with 92% winrate. I could probably reached GoD of Destruction but don't see a point in playing with a massive disadvantage. I stopped playing again shortly after. Anyways... If you know anything about Tekken you would know that it is one of the hardest games ever made and game where you have 6,433 different moves and frames that you have to learn and react to. I've managed to consistently react to 16-18f moves despite dealing with this problem. Image


Now let's see your FACEIT?
Ah i see, you have a massive disadvantage that can't be solved in any way? Have you been cursed by god? Or maybe you're just too retarded to solve basic problems? Has to be one of the two.
Haha, good chat
Cya l8trzzz

Re: Finding root cause/fix

Posted: 12 Sep 2026, 14:55
by MaleGigolo
playa wrote:
12 Sep 2026, 14:48
MaleGigolo wrote:
12 Sep 2026, 14:42
playa wrote:
12 Sep 2026, 14:08
Ever consider that you're just shit at games? That there's no weird anomaly unsolvable problem, you're just seeing things and those pro players mock and laugh at you the same way. Or why are you here, what's that "it" you are talking about? Explain it slowly and in detail, so even Borat could understand you
I haven't played games competitively for years but still reached Tekken God with 92% winrate. I could probably reached GoD of Destruction but don't see a point in playing with a massive disadvantage. I stopped playing again shortly after. Anyways... If you know anything about Tekken you would know that it is one of the hardest games ever made and game where you have 6,433 different moves and frames that you have to learn and react to. I've managed to consistently react to 16-18f moves despite dealing with this problem. Image


Now let's see your FACEIT?
Ah i see, you have a massive disadvantage that can't be solved in any way? Have you been cursed by god? Or maybe you're just too retarded to solve basic problems? Has to be one of the two.
Haha, good chat
Cya l8trzzz
So you don't want to show us your FACEIT? That's what i thought. Pathetic liar and a schizo.

Re: Finding root cause/fix

Posted: 12 Sep 2026, 18:49
by Templar_Warden
playa wrote:
12 Sep 2026, 14:08
Ever consider that you're just shit at games? That there's no weird anomaly unsolvable problem, you're just seeing things and those pro players mock and laugh at you the same way. Or why are you here, what's that "it" you are talking about? Explain it slowly and in detail, so even Borat could understand you
Pro players arent just absent of skill because they still are only going against other who also dont have the issue so its more fair for them. its just unfair for us, like idk why dudes always wanna bring up rank when its unfair to even mention rank for those with this problem. just show footage of gameplay like i have and thats all, I know whenever you show gameplay there will be those that complain but imo its better. you can tell instantly. Now of course im biased, others play different games so theyd show it differently. Imo games like csgo or siege arent good ways to show the issue because you dont need to track targets. so of course ive only showed the issue in apex. i mean i havnt just, i tried showing in siege, the finals, destiny, battlefield 4, vermintide 2. all different types of games. but i still think apex is the best to show it. because i found that games like siege arent as bad to deal with it but apex feels impossible. I know im good at apex and dont need to prove it to anyone but i never really played ranked since i felt like it was pointless to play with the issue, why would i. im sure others have felt the same.

Re: Finding root cause/fix

Posted: 13 Sep 2026, 03:12
by MK92
Who told you that "iron theory" is a joke and meme, chat gpt? It is literally how neutral impedance and imbalance can be diagnosed without any tools, a huge resistive load like iron temporarily stabilizes bad TN-C wiring with shared neutrals for whatever reason (probably something to do with potentials)...before I re-wired the room and permanently fixed the problem, I could fix it as well by turning on the iron, the PC instanlty became much better until I turned it off, this problem is very common in old TN-C apartments in eastern europe and iron would always make everything better

Re: Finding root cause/fix

Posted: 13 Sep 2026, 05:46
by simon
MaleGigolo wrote:
11 Sep 2026, 20:42
playa wrote:
11 Sep 2026, 17:39
MaleGigolo wrote:
11 Sep 2026, 16:01
playa wrote:
10 Sep 2026, 03:56

I'm actually not someone who has this as a "problem". It's quite the opposite and i'm trying to figure out why i have it good. And yes, never said it's just OS/PC, i believe it to be a combination of electricity, hardware and software
Sure buddy. And in your previous comments you said how moving cables and doing random tweaks changes the way your mouse behaves lmao.
Yep, it does, doesn't change the fact that i still have a visible advantage in games, seeing opponents before they see me, better hit registration etc. What you don't seem to understand after decades of being around this "problem" is that everyones experience actually fluctuates. It's just that the baseline "good" seems to be better for some people
Nonsense. You have no arguments and your coping that everyone has this problem when that is simply not true most people just turn on their PC and enjoy input lag free experience. You are susceptible to placebo like most tweakers that's why you claim this problem is a mix of everything because you make random changes and you think you achieved something. I guess keep moving cables and making random changes to your PC and still being stuck in low ranks while 99% of players don't have to do any of that and only have to practice to get better.
Can you really say no matter if your game is input lag free or not, your enemies still see you the same way and are able to hit you the same way? No.
Becoming unhitable when playing input lag free is what exactly? Moving faster from your enemies POV or them slowing down in your crosshair? Is it skill? It's an advantage you're not controlling in any way with your reaction time or a million years of practice...

The biggest question is why everyone assumes the best of everything is "the normal"? The brightest and clearest picture, the smoothest game and best hits without recoil. Basically all the best, right? Because it was meant to be like that for everyone? Think about it for a sec..
99% of the players have neither, the best or the worst. Because it would stand out immediately. So, where is the normal?
I know it's hard to comprehend the scope of it when you haven't played a thousand games with the same enemy and also got to see everything from their POV.