Environmental conditions and motherboard
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This subforum is for advanced users only. This separate area is for niche or unexpected lag issues such as electromagnetic interference (EMI, EMF, electrical, radiofrequency, etc). Interference of all kinds (wired, wireless, external, internal, environment, bad component) can cause error-correction (ECC) latencies like a bad modem connection, except internally in a circuit. ECC = retransmits = lag. Troubleshooting may require university degree. Your lag issue is likely not EMI.
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Anonymous768119
Environmental conditions and motherboard
Just received a link to this interesting thread on reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/co ... urce=share
The guy discovered by coincidence that after using a hairdryer (which was designated to blow dust away), he could finally boot his PC. After several trials he found out that it is all about high RH in his place. Starting AC eliminated the problem, so he excluded any potential issues from the mains.
In 2013 somebody discovered the same.
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.p ... -quick-fix
It allowes me to think, that RH has much more impact on our PCs that we realize. My performance in games is much better during dry, summer days when RH drops below 50%. I remember a week with consistently good inputs and hitregs which last exactly after first rain. The same was happening during cold and dry winter days. I immediately noticed the difference in gaming when it came to snowmelt. CSGO and everything else was just unplayable and RH in my room was around 80% and 95%+ outside. Funny thing is that by following RH from weather forecasts in my city I could estimate if it's worth to start any game and with very high probability I was right.
Another thing is that crystal oscillators are highly sensitive to environmental conditions like too high or too low air temperature and relative humidity above 75%. Now the question is if fluctuating frequency in the oscillator can cause the problems with inputs and timings that affect gaming so badly.
Point a hairdryer to a motherboard and share your observations.
https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/co ... urce=share
The guy discovered by coincidence that after using a hairdryer (which was designated to blow dust away), he could finally boot his PC. After several trials he found out that it is all about high RH in his place. Starting AC eliminated the problem, so he excluded any potential issues from the mains.
In 2013 somebody discovered the same.
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.p ... -quick-fix
It allowes me to think, that RH has much more impact on our PCs that we realize. My performance in games is much better during dry, summer days when RH drops below 50%. I remember a week with consistently good inputs and hitregs which last exactly after first rain. The same was happening during cold and dry winter days. I immediately noticed the difference in gaming when it came to snowmelt. CSGO and everything else was just unplayable and RH in my room was around 80% and 95%+ outside. Funny thing is that by following RH from weather forecasts in my city I could estimate if it's worth to start any game and with very high probability I was right.
Another thing is that crystal oscillators are highly sensitive to environmental conditions like too high or too low air temperature and relative humidity above 75%. Now the question is if fluctuating frequency in the oscillator can cause the problems with inputs and timings that affect gaming so badly.
Point a hairdryer to a motherboard and share your observations.
Re: Environmental conditions and motherboard
Not true. Google it TCXOa_c_r_e_a_l wrote: ↑28 May 2022, 19:28
Another thing is that crystal oscillators are highly sensitive to environmental conditions like too high or too low air temperature and relative humidity above 75%.
Re: Environmental conditions and motherboard
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Re: Environmental conditions and motherboard
Are you checking humidity inside your PC, not in the room? You will be surprised; it will be different.
But, I am thinking in your room, the humidity is less than 70, except if you are playing in the Turkish bath.
I am not google a lot, but easily found with 85% humidity level:
https://datasheet.lcsc.com/szlcsc/21031 ... 760261.pdf
You can try, but anyway, this nothing changed.
But, I am thinking in your room, the humidity is less than 70, except if you are playing in the Turkish bath.
I am not google a lot, but easily found with 85% humidity level:
https://datasheet.lcsc.com/szlcsc/21031 ... 760261.pdf
You can try, but anyway, this nothing changed.
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Anonymous768119
Re: Environmental conditions and motherboard
It doesn't matter, front fans are blowing moist air inside. Problems can appear also when ambient temperature is significantly higher than temperature inside PC chasiss (dew point).mybad wrote: ↑29 May 2022, 06:06Are you checking humidity inside your PC, not in the room? You will be surprised; it will be different.
But, I am thinking in your room, the humidity is less than 70, except if you are playing in the Turkish bath.
I am not google a lot, but easily found with 85% humidity level:
https://datasheet.lcsc.com/szlcsc/21031 ... 760261.pdf
You can try, but anyway, this nothing changed.
RH level in my building is unnaturally higher and there can be many factors causing that ie. insulation. Air circulation is pretty low aswell so very often I feel like in a jungle. Healthy RH level for PCs is between 45-55% and in my apartments it rarely drops below 70%. When it dropped below 50% outside I had so far best gaming experience ever but in my region it happens very seldom. I am pretty sure there must be correlation.
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Anonymous768119
Re: Environmental conditions and motherboard
@Chief Blur Buster
Your opinion and experiences are very welcomed because I can see that it was never mentioned before. Maybe you have something interesting to add.
Your opinion and experiences are very welcomed because I can see that it was never mentioned before. Maybe you have something interesting to add.
Re: Environmental conditions and motherboard
Guys, I'm in shock! My input lag and how I feel the game depends on the level of finding my pc from the water level! After moving my computer down to the floor, I noticed that my mouse started to feel much better! I do not know how to explain it, I do not have any scientific data, but I give a tooth that it is so.
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Anonymous768119
Re: Environmental conditions and motherboard
Was that supposed to be funny or something? No wonder why this forum slowly becomes a trolling center.Slender wrote: ↑29 May 2022, 17:58Guys, I'm in shock! My input lag and how I feel the game depends on the level of finding my pc from the water level! After moving my computer down to the floor, I noticed that my mouse started to feel much better! I do not know how to explain it, I do not have any scientific data, but I give a tooth that it is so.
Re: Environmental conditions and motherboard
What makes you think I'm joking?a_c_r_e_a_l wrote: ↑29 May 2022, 18:38Was that supposed to be funny or something? No wonder why this forum slowly becomes a trolling center.Slender wrote: ↑29 May 2022, 17:58Guys, I'm in shock! My input lag and how I feel the game depends on the level of finding my pc from the water level! After moving my computer down to the floor, I noticed that my mouse started to feel much better! I do not know how to explain it, I do not have any scientific data, but I give a tooth that it is so.
Why don't you trust my research?
If you believe that humidity affects the operation of the PC, you should have the fact that the distance from sea level affects too. You can't deny it any more than dirty electricity.
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Anonymous768119
Re: Environmental conditions and motherboard
The tone of your comment suggests it clearly.
Believe me or not but it took years for me to notice that. RH level below 50% gave me the best results however I still can't confirm if it's about PC itself or anything else.
When you start digging in the Internet you can see hundreds of topics regarding influence of humidity on PC. Second thing is that I was totally unaware of vaping for months in front of my PC which is pretty harmful for electronics. Need more time to investigate.
Believe me or not but it took years for me to notice that. RH level below 50% gave me the best results however I still can't confirm if it's about PC itself or anything else.
When you start digging in the Internet you can see hundreds of topics regarding influence of humidity on PC. Second thing is that I was totally unaware of vaping for months in front of my PC which is pretty harmful for electronics. Need more time to investigate.
