Sirius wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023, 08:55
I suspected it, for me it's super important but I would continue to believe and look for a screen that offers me a correct refresh compliance in LCD (even if I believe that at hertz rates like 240hz and more, I can potentially cry...)
"Correct refresh rate compliance" is subject to interpretation.
If you mean "Good enough refresh rate compliance", then yes.
If you mean "Perfect refresh rate compliance", then no.
I suggest you switch to OLED, since you won't find what you're looking for in LCD based on your signature. XL2566K is currently the LCD masterclass at the moment as the best and most refresh-rate-compliant 360 Hz LCD (at the moment). Even its compliance is imperfect, but if your priorities are high Hz, you have no reason to move away from XL2566K yet.
Your signature suggests to me you won't find the display.
However, I can provide a tip: Hertz headroom. If you love strobing, try intermediate refresh rates such as 100Hz. Something not too flickery, but something easy for GPUs to do framerate=Hz on.
Prominent forum member just recently private messaged me that he is currently testing XG2431. This forum member did almost 100x tests as much as a reviewer did, unlocking better LCD refresh rate compliance than even RTINGS did on XG2431. A few days ago, privately told me that the XG2431 (for low Hz) appears to be a masterclass of its own with hidden easter egg of near-perfect refresh rate compliance with large-vertical-totals at low refresh rates. He mentioned he's about to publicly post his first-ever XG2431 review. (BTW, I never told him to buy one -- just happened to obtain was and was impressed at its low-Hz performance)
You just have to ignore 60 Hz (too much flicker) and ignore >120Hz (failed refresh rate compliance) and
treat certain high-Hz displays as luxury low-Hz LCDs -- The Correct Way For Near Perfect LCD Refresh Rate Compliance (like a Quest 2 VR LCD) and you have to learn how to use the Large Vertical Totals that reviewers never tried.
There are more-perfect refresh rate compliance abilities waiting to be unlocked in LCDs that reviewers -- not even RTINGS -- tweaked for (e.g. On certain high-Hz panels, giant-size vertical totals at 85-100Hz are magical with custom-100-step overdrive fine adjustment, as a sweet spot that is not too strobe flickery while achieving nigh zero real world crosstalk, zero double images at framerate=Hz).
If your priority is great refresh rate compliance at highest Hz, the LCD champion is the XL2566K at the moment, unless you want to switch to OLED. If your priority is near-perfect refresh rate compliance during strobing, then you have to get your hands very dirty with advanced custom timings such as Large Vertical Totals at intermediate refresh rates on certain models such as XG2431 (almost no reviewer tested those modes). Or to get an Oculus Quest 2 VR -- which is one of the most refresh-rate-compliant strobed LCDs I've ever seen (refresh rate compliance in dark phase = zero crosstalk)
The catch with achieving effectively (visually) perfect refresh rate compliance during strobing, is you have to give up the high Hz and go low Hz instead (Hertz headroom trick to turn it into a "
luxury low Hz LCD")
Crosstalk = Compliance Failure
During ULMB/DyAc/VRB/PureXP = ON -- crosstalk is a compliance fail. Same thing. Synonym!
Here's what YOUR human eyes see for 1% compliance fail, 3% compliance fail, 10% compliance fail, and 25% compliance fail during strobing:
That's why a small compliance for all colors fail can still produce better results than another display that has a 10% compliance fail with 10% of colors (e.g. dark colors).
- Do you prefer a display that has 1% compliance fail for ALL colors (faint compliance failure)
- Or do you prefer a display that as a perfect compliance for 90% of colors, but a 10% compliance fail for 10% of colors (blatant visible compliance failure)
And sometimes, the rabbit hole becomes even bigger; you also have a situation of:
- Do you prefer a display that has a 100% compliance, but some colors are inconsistent with each others (1ms-8ms GtG100% on 120Hz panel), with the inconsistent lagfeel?
- Or do you prefer a display that has a 100% compliance, but very consistent pixel response (slower at 7ms but all colors have exactly 7ms on a 120Hz LCD), with the more consistent lagfeel, despite slightly less clear motion?
So you have a series of pick-poisons in the literal metaphorical human-eye fine print not written in reviews. A minor compliance failure is often faint. A major compliance failure is often visible. It can be inconsistent Now go back to my original post, re-read, and re-interpret, based on this new information, and re-ask me simpler questions if possible? Thx.
Remember, you don't want different input lag for different colors. Inconsistent GtG can means certain colors feel more laggy than others, which is ugly -- inconsistent latency feel for different colors. It's not a good feeling. As gorgeous as the reviewer visualizations, it does not give you a WYSIWYG demo. The human eye rabbit hole is bigger than what reviewers write about.
Chief Blur Buster wrote: ↑29 Aug 2023, 11:58
[Various mixes of new questions; some fantastic good new questions, and some new questions partially created by misunderstanding original post]
I will reply in bigger in a few days. Please see above reply; need to address a deadline this week before I go back to my love of replying with big technical walls of texts;
Keep tuned,
