Finding for heavy/floaty mouse movement [input lag]
Finding for heavy/floaty mouse movement [input lag]
So, guys, I wanna share something with you. I am testing something for the past few months and I am not sure if it's gonna help to all of you, but I can say for sure that it certainly helped me and my friends. I ain't gonna call it a fix, because maybe some of you have completely different problem. Desync issues, hit registration issues and other are not related to the input lag problem, I have already fixed that with brand new fiber connection and high quality cable.
I am pretty sure that something with how Windows interacts with resolutions and scaling is broken. I've done many tests on different computers/laptops with all possible Windows versions and it happens on all of them, except XP and earlier. So my conclusion is that since Vista was released, something was and still is broken. Before few months, I was testing custom resolution and I noticed that whenever I change my DESKTOP RESOLUTION, my mouse movements were correct, snappy and I couldn't feel any mouse input lag. I thought it's gonna last forever and that I somehow fixed it but... I was wrong. When I started my pc the next day, my mouse input lag came back. I thought it was a coincidence... until... I decided to test another custom resolution. The input lag was gone again. So I started thinking: "Why is it happening? What am I doing that makes the input lag disappear?" And I figured it out. Whenever I snap my DESKTOP RESOLUTION to the lowest possible in the list, in my case 800x600 and then click on "Revert" which makes my screen use native resolution again, my input lag disappears. I thought that it's too good to be true, so I tried this on my laptop and... it worked. I am thinking that maybe this is why every time windows has been reinstalled the problem is not present. Something breaks after that, unfortunately I still don't know what exactly.
In short, step by step:
1. Restart your PC
2. Right click on your desktop and go to Display settings.
3. Under Display resolution click on the lowest possible
4. When the 20 second timer appears, click on Revert /make sure your refresh rate hasn't changed/
5. Profit
I am pretty sure that something with how Windows interacts with resolutions and scaling is broken. I've done many tests on different computers/laptops with all possible Windows versions and it happens on all of them, except XP and earlier. So my conclusion is that since Vista was released, something was and still is broken. Before few months, I was testing custom resolution and I noticed that whenever I change my DESKTOP RESOLUTION, my mouse movements were correct, snappy and I couldn't feel any mouse input lag. I thought it's gonna last forever and that I somehow fixed it but... I was wrong. When I started my pc the next day, my mouse input lag came back. I thought it was a coincidence... until... I decided to test another custom resolution. The input lag was gone again. So I started thinking: "Why is it happening? What am I doing that makes the input lag disappear?" And I figured it out. Whenever I snap my DESKTOP RESOLUTION to the lowest possible in the list, in my case 800x600 and then click on "Revert" which makes my screen use native resolution again, my input lag disappears. I thought that it's too good to be true, so I tried this on my laptop and... it worked. I am thinking that maybe this is why every time windows has been reinstalled the problem is not present. Something breaks after that, unfortunately I still don't know what exactly.
In short, step by step:
1. Restart your PC
2. Right click on your desktop and go to Display settings.
3. Under Display resolution click on the lowest possible
4. When the 20 second timer appears, click on Revert /make sure your refresh rate hasn't changed/
5. Profit
Re: Finding for heavy/floaty mouse movement [input lag]
Amazing. Its definetly works for me, atleast for now. Went to deathmach and i feel confidence in my aim like old times. Good finding, thank you.
Re: Finding for heavy/floaty mouse movement [input lag]
Glad it helped, mate! The problem is we gotta do the trick on every start-up of Windows.
Re: Finding for heavy/floaty mouse movement [input lag]
This is amazing! ! Hopefully there will be more research on this! ! expect
I have no input lag, currently mainly researching desync.
Re: Finding for heavy/floaty mouse movement [input lag]
What is "heavy mouse movement"? Heavy describes a degree of weight, not the way something moves. Unless the object/mouse cursor is somehow falling.
I've tried to think through this for awhile and can't comprehend what it could mean.
I've tried to think through this for awhile and can't comprehend what it could mean.
Re: Finding for heavy/floaty mouse movement [input lag]
Heavy means that when you move your mouse and expect it to move to a specific position, it's like it moves but stops sooner than expected, as it feels like you are dragging it because it feels heavy and not free or not 1 to 1 like it should. Changing DPI, mouse or anything doesn't help, any mice and/or their settings exhibit the same behavior.
Re: Finding for heavy/floaty mouse movement [input lag]
How is it possible for the cursor to feel heavy when it's a graphic on your screen? It's just something you are observing. If you look at a cup full of ice, does that make you feel cold? For me, observing a cup of ice doesn't make me feel cold. Turning my mouse sensitivity up doesn't cause me to feel my mouse cursor weighing less.TheKelz wrote: ↑10 Nov 2023, 02:00Heavy means that when you move your mouse and expect it to move to a specific position, it's like it moves but stops sooner than expected, as it feels like you are dragging it because it feels heavy and not free or not 1 to 1 like it should. Changing DPI, mouse or anything doesn't help, any mice and/or their settings exhibit the same behavior.
Re: Finding for heavy/floaty mouse movement [input lag]
Please don't make this too scientific. "Heavy feeling" is the closest term we can apply to this issue. If you have a better alternative, let us know.Zodasaur wrote: ↑15 Nov 2023, 06:27How is it possible for the cursor to feel heavy when it's a graphic on your screen? It's just something you are observing. If you look at a cup full of ice, does that make you feel cold? For me, observing a cup of ice doesn't make me feel cold. Turning my mouse sensitivity up doesn't cause me to feel my mouse cursor weighing less.TheKelz wrote: ↑10 Nov 2023, 02:00Heavy means that when you move your mouse and expect it to move to a specific position, it's like it moves but stops sooner than expected, as it feels like you are dragging it because it feels heavy and not free or not 1 to 1 like it should. Changing DPI, mouse or anything doesn't help, any mice and/or their settings exhibit the same behavior.
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Re: Finding for heavy/floaty mouse movement [input lag]
I'm experiencing the same issue ( other people are too) - in addition to the movement/acceleration/speed feeling "too short", about 25% of the time the movement is too fast - and it changes all the time, with no obvious pattern to it.TheKelz wrote: ↑10 Nov 2023, 02:00Heavy means that when you move your mouse and expect it to move to a specific position, it's like it moves but stops sooner than expected, as it feels like you are dragging it because it feels heavy and not free or not 1 to 1 like it should. Changing DPI, mouse or anything doesn't help, any mice and/or their settings exhibit the same behavior.
