Intel awful input lag

[Loubie]

Hello,
I'm a Valorant pro player (tier 2) and I've upgraded to an i9 13900kf (ddr4 3600 cl14) last year from a ryzen 7 5800x

Something I've noticed after doing this huge upgrade, is that my performance dropped drastically (changed monitor from a 2540k to a 2566k as well) and I've never felt kinda comfortable as I used to (even though I optimized everything on my pc).

After a bad season with my team rn I kept looking into the issue and couldn't figure it out, until 1 week ago where I tried a friend's pc with a stock windows 10 and a ryzen 5 5600x (3600 cl14 as well), the difference was night and day and it was extremly responsive compared to my intel, and I couldn't figure out why at all.
Disabled HT E cores OCed to 5.7 with Uncore frequency to 4.9 even, it feels way slower and the imput lag is just there, I even took my pc to my friends house to try and he instantly felt it as well, which is mind blowing.

Even outside competitive play I could see the difference in my stats (from an average of 1.4kd to 1.1), jumped back into his pc for 2 days and I've played like I used to (I even finished rank 1 a few seasons ago on my AMD).
Just to confirm that it was not placebo I've called 2 more friends to try those PCs out and sure enough, they too did notice it.

How come this problem happened all of a sudden? All I could hear throught the years is how bad AMD was especially with their memory controller, and yet intel (for me at least) is 10 times worse.

[widow13]

Hello,
I'm a Valorant pro player (tier 2) and I've upgraded to an i9 13900kf (ddr4 3600 cl14) last year from a ryzen 7 5800x

Something I've noticed after doing this huge upgrade, is that my performance dropped drastically (changed monitor from a 2540k to a 2566k as well) and I've never felt kinda comfortable as I used to (even though I optimized everything on my pc).

After a bad season with my team rn I kept looking into the issue and couldn't figure it out, until 1 week ago where I tried a friend's pc with a stock windows 10 and a ryzen 5 5600x (3600 cl14 as well), the difference was night and day and it was extremly responsive compared to my intel, and I couldn't figure out why at all.
Disabled HT E cores OCed to 5.7 with Uncore frequency to 4.9 even, it feels way slower and the imput lag is just there, I even took my pc to my friends house to try and he instantly felt it as well, which is mind blowing.

Even outside competitive play I could see the difference in my stats (from an average of 1.4kd to 1.1), jumped back into his pc for 2 days and I've played like I used to (I even finished rank 1 a few seasons ago on my AMD).
Just to confirm that it was not placebo I've called 2 more friends to try those PCs out and sure enough, they too did notice it.

How come this problem happened all of a sudden? All I could hear throught the years is how bad AMD was especially with their memory controller, and yet intel (for me at least) is 10 times worse.

Isn't 13900kf ddr5? Or does it support both?

[Loubie]

Hello,
I'm a Valorant pro player (tier 2) and I've upgraded to an i9 13900kf (ddr4 3600 cl14) last year from a ryzen 7 5800x

Something I've noticed after doing this huge upgrade, is that my performance dropped drastically (changed monitor from a 2540k to a 2566k as well) and I've never felt kinda comfortable as I used to (even though I optimized everything on my pc).

After a bad season with my team rn I kept looking into the issue and couldn't figure it out, until 1 week ago where I tried a friend's pc with a stock windows 10 and a ryzen 5 5600x (3600 cl14 as well), the difference was night and day and it was extremly responsive compared to my intel, and I couldn't figure out why at all.
Disabled HT E cores OCed to 5.7 with Uncore frequency to 4.9 even, it feels way slower and the imput lag is just there, I even took my pc to my friends house to try and he instantly felt it as well, which is mind blowing.

Even outside competitive play I could see the difference in my stats (from an average of 1.4kd to 1.1), jumped back into his pc for 2 days and I've played like I used to (I even finished rank 1 a few seasons ago on my AMD).
Just to confirm that it was not placebo I've called 2 more friends to try those PCs out and sure enough, they too did notice it.

How come this problem happened all of a sudden? All I could hear throught the years is how bad AMD was especially with their memory controller, and yet intel (for me at least) is 10 times worse.

Isn't 13900kf ddr5?

There's some Z690 mobos DDR4 i went for that one but yeah 90% of them are DDR5 though

[widow13]

Hello,
I'm a Valorant pro player (tier 2) and I've upgraded to an i9 13900kf (ddr4 3600 cl14) last year from a ryzen 7 5800x

Something I've noticed after doing this huge upgrade, is that my performance dropped drastically (changed monitor from a 2540k to a 2566k as well) and I've never felt kinda comfortable as I used to (even though I optimized everything on my pc).

After a bad season with my team rn I kept looking into the issue and couldn't figure it out, until 1 week ago where I tried a friend's pc with a stock windows 10 and a ryzen 5 5600x (3600 cl14 as well), the difference was night and day and it was extremly responsive compared to my intel, and I couldn't figure out why at all.
Disabled HT E cores OCed to 5.7 with Uncore frequency to 4.9 even, it feels way slower and the imput lag is just there, I even took my pc to my friends house to try and he instantly felt it as well, which is mind blowing.

Even outside competitive play I could see the difference in my stats (from an average of 1.4kd to 1.1), jumped back into his pc for 2 days and I've played like I used to (I even finished rank 1 a few seasons ago on my AMD).
Just to confirm that it was not placebo I've called 2 more friends to try those PCs out and sure enough, they too did notice it.

How come this problem happened all of a sudden? All I could hear throught the years is how bad AMD was especially with their memory controller, and yet intel (for me at least) is 10 times worse.

Isn't 13900kf ddr5?

There's some Z690 mobos DDR4 i went for that one but yeah 90% of them are DDR5 though

Yeah makes sense.
Personally I'm running a 7600x and sometimes use a PC with a intel 9700kf.
If I remember correctly the 9700kf required different settings to run well, sometimes page file/game mode on/off helped and stuff like that.
Had to experiment a lot to get it to run fine.

[Loubie]

Hello,
I'm a Valorant pro player (tier 2) and I've upgraded to an i9 13900kf (ddr4 3600 cl14) last year from a ryzen 7 5800x

Something I've noticed after doing this huge upgrade, is that my performance dropped drastically (changed monitor from a 2540k to a 2566k as well) and I've never felt kinda comfortable as I used to (even though I optimized everything on my pc).

After a bad season with my team rn I kept looking into the issue and couldn't figure it out, until 1 week ago where I tried a friend's pc with a stock windows 10 and a ryzen 5 5600x (3600 cl14 as well), the difference was night and day and it was extremly responsive compared to my intel, and I couldn't figure out why at all.
Disabled HT E cores OCed to 5.7 with Uncore frequency to 4.9 even, it feels way slower and the imput lag is just there, I even took my pc to my friends house to try and he instantly felt it as well, which is mind blowing.

Even outside competitive play I could see the difference in my stats (from an average of 1.4kd to 1.1), jumped back into his pc for 2 days and I've played like I used to (I even finished rank 1 a few seasons ago on my AMD).
Just to confirm that it was not placebo I've called 2 more friends to try those PCs out and sure enough, they too did notice it.

How come this problem happened all of a sudden? All I could hear throught the years is how bad AMD was especially with their memory controller, and yet intel (for me at least) is 10 times worse.

Isn't 13900kf ddr5?

There's some Z690 mobos DDR4 i went for that one but yeah 90% of them are DDR5 though

Yeah makes sense.
Personally I'm running a 7600x and sometimes use a PC with a intel 9700kf.
If I remember correctly the 9700kf required different settings to run well, sometimes page file/game mode on/off helped and stuff like that.
Had to experiment a lot to get it to run fine.

Have you had the chance to try 12/13/14th gen?

[widow13]

Isn't 13900kf ddr5?

There's some Z690 mobos DDR4 i went for that one but yeah 90% of them are DDR5 though

Yeah makes sense.
Personally I'm running a 7600x and sometimes use a PC with a intel 9700kf.
If I remember correctly the 9700kf required different settings to run well, sometimes page file/game mode on/off helped and stuff like that.
Had to experiment a lot to get it to run fine.

Have you had the chance to try 12/13/14th gen?

Sadly not, everyone I know uses ryzen nowdays.
What OS are you on? w10 or w11 ? Have you tried both?

[Inputlucker]

I noticed the same moving from 9700k, z390 and ddr4 to 14700k, z790, ddr5. Framerate is higher, but mouse feels a bit floaty, it becomes faster or slower depending on Windows tweaks, bios tweaks, like disabling cores/HT, powersavings, onboard audio and lan. Theres a difference, when i switch to usb Ethernet adapter or cheap usb soundcard (before always use onboard audio). Theres a difference with chipset/audio drivers installed. For example, with realtek audio drivers using onboard audio for me mouse feels quite presize, slower than with generic Microsoft driver, but games seems to be less smooth. Somthing wrong with some games and Windows version. I play alot Chivalry 2 duels, on Windows 10 i can see what enemy doing and react quickly, on Windows 11 (same fps, maybe more smooth) my hits not registered, delayed attack animation, enemy moving faster than me. Same feeling for cs 2. Pubg seems working better on 11 idk why, i suppose there is somthing with drivers (audio, lan) and w11 high polling rate mouse patch maybe). I also swapped my monitor from msi g273qf 165 hz ips to LG oled 240 hz and on old 9700k system it feels better than ips one, but i have not enough frames (for exmpl 130-150 fps in bf 2042, now 160-225 with 3070ti), now i have higher framerate but games feel weird, my aim mostly goes off, Image is blurry. But, after i make some changes in os/bios/switch power outlet games start to work better somehow. Sorry for my English. Hope someday there will be a fix or at least an explanation.

[synchronicity]

Hello,
I'm a Valorant pro player (tier 2) and I've upgraded to an i9 13900kf (ddr4 3600 cl14) last year from a ryzen 7 5800x

Something I've noticed after doing this huge upgrade, is that my performance dropped drastically (changed monitor from a 2540k to a 2566k as well) and I've never felt kinda comfortable as I used to (even though I optimized everything on my pc).

After a bad season with my team rn I kept looking into the issue and couldn't figure it out, until 1 week ago where I tried a friend's pc with a stock windows 10 and a ryzen 5 5600x (3600 cl14 as well), the difference was night and day and it was extremly responsive compared to my intel, and I couldn't figure out why at all.
Disabled HT E cores OCed to 5.7 with Uncore frequency to 4.9 even, it feels way slower and the imput lag is just there, I even took my pc to my friends house to try and he instantly felt it as well, which is mind blowing.

Even outside competitive play I could see the difference in my stats (from an average of 1.4kd to 1.1), jumped back into his pc for 2 days and I've played like I used to (I even finished rank 1 a few seasons ago on my AMD).
Just to confirm that it was not placebo I've called 2 more friends to try those PCs out and sure enough, they too did notice it.

How come this problem happened all of a sudden? All I could hear throught the years is how bad AMD was especially with their memory controller, and yet intel (for me at least) is 10 times worse.

Disable hyperthreading, overclock, run valorant with multithreading off
Also considering using Snappy Driver Installer Lite to install all the drivers

[unconnected]

I have the same issue as yours, running 13900k on 0x129mc + 3080ti + asus z690-e + fury 5600 cl36 on windows 11.
I've tried every tweak possible, the results are so inconsistent based on the tweak, but never perfect.
I've just received a new 13900k from the rma because of the crashes I had, and yet it is the same.
I'm playing only cs2 and the mouse is deleyed that makes me not hit anything.

Now I'm crying in the corner as I payed 3k€ for this pc and have to sell it for a third of the price.

I've tried a pc from a friend of mine that had 7800x3d and a 4080 super and the game was super responsive, I ended most of the games with 90hs% when testing. Had to give it away after a few days.

Don't know what to do

[Slender]

I noticed the same moving from 9700k, z390 and ddr4 to 14700k, z790, ddr5. Framerate is higher, but mouse feels a bit floaty, it becomes faster or slower depending on Windows tweaks, bios tweaks, like disabling cores/HT, powersavings, onboard audio and lan. Theres a difference, when i switch to usb Ethernet adapter or cheap usb soundcard (before always use onboard audio). Theres a difference with chipset/audio drivers installed. For example, with realtek audio drivers using onboard audio for me mouse feels quite presize, slower than with generic Microsoft driver, but games seems to be less smooth. Somthing wrong with some games and Windows version. I play alot Chivalry 2 duels, on Windows 10 i can see what enemy doing and react quickly, on Windows 11 (same fps, maybe more smooth) my hits not registered, delayed attack animation, enemy moving faster than me. Same feeling for cs 2. Pubg seems working better on 11 idk why, i suppose there is somthing with drivers (audio, lan) and w11 high polling rate mouse patch maybe). I also swapped my monitor from msi g273qf 165 hz ips to LG oled 240 hz and on old 9700k system it feels better than ips one, but i have not enough frames (for exmpl 130-150 fps in bf 2042, now 160-225 with 3070ti), now i have higher framerate but games feel weird, my aim mostly goes off, Image is blurry. But, after i make some changes in os/bios/switch power outlet games start to work better somehow. Sorry for my English. Hope someday there will be a fix or at least an explanation.

old z390 using RTC system timer and low latency io by default.
try to enable it.