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Presentmon dwm.exe
Posted: 05 Feb 2026, 14:56
by zENNy
Hello everyone,
I don’t have very deep knowledge on this topic, so I’m genuinely curious about something that’s been bothering me.
When I check PresentMon, I see that dwm.exe is running in Legacy Flip mode, while other applications are running in Composed Flip mode. What I’m wondering is whether DWM running in Legacy mode causes any issues, and if this is normal behavior for everyone.
If someone who understands this well could explain it, I’d really appreciate it.
Re: Presentmon dwm.exe
Posted: 05 Feb 2026, 15:25
by RealNC
zENNy wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026, 14:56
Hello everyone,
I don’t have very deep knowledge on this topic, so I’m genuinely curious about something that’s been bothering me.
When I check PresentMon, I see that dwm.exe is running in Legacy Flip mode, while other applications are running in Composed Flip mode. What I’m wondering is whether DWM running in Legacy mode causes any issues, and if this is normal behavior for everyone.
If someone who understands this well could explain it, I’d really appreciate it.
DWM running with legacy flip means it can't bypass DWM
(I don't know what it would even mean for DWM to bypass itself.)
Re: Presentmon dwm.exe
Posted: 06 Feb 2026, 09:31
by kyube
zENNy wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026, 14:56
It's a misleading thing which occurrs with the PresentMon CLI, don't mind that.
Rely on:
•
SpecialK (if offline / no kernel AC game),
•
RTSS' overlay (not the same as MSI Afterburner's overlay)
•
FrameView .csv files
to figure out the presentation model of the specific game you're interested in.
FrameView works fine on AMD dGPUs, which is what you have.
The RTSS overlay is accessed by: opening up RTSS → clicking the 'Setup' button → opening the 'Plugins' tab → double clicking the OverlayEditor.dll setting (checkmark it beforehand) → clicking Layouts → Load → selecting 'presentmon_latency_analyzer.ovl' or 'reflex.ovl'
Off-topic — you shouldn't be using Razer's app, nor Bluetooth.
Re: Presentmon dwm.exe
Posted: 06 Feb 2026, 10:59
by Hyote
kyube wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 09:31
zENNy wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026, 14:56
It's a misleading thing which occurrs, don't mind that.
Rely on SK (if offline / no kernel AC game), RTSS' overlay (not the same as MSI Afterburner's overlay) or FrameView .csv to figure out the presentation model of the specific game you're interested in.
FrameView works fine on AMD dGPUs, which is what you have.
Off-topic — you shouldn't be using Razer's app, nor Bluetooth.
I JUST SAW THOSE ICONS, this guy is the final boss of input lag and data harvesting.
Re: Presentmon dwm.exe
Posted: 06 Feb 2026, 11:54
by zENNy
Hyote wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 10:59
kyube wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 09:31
zENNy wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026, 14:56
It's a misleading thing which occurrs, don't mind that.
Rely on SK (if offline / no kernel AC game), RTSS' overlay (not the same as MSI Afterburner's overlay) or FrameView .csv to figure out the presentation model of the specific game you're interested in.
FrameView works fine on AMD dGPUs, which is what you have.
Off-topic — you shouldn't be using Razer's app, nor Bluetooth.
I JUST SAW THOSE ICONS, this guy is the final boss of input lag and data harvesting.
They’re all disabled anyway, nothing changes even like that — don’t worry. I just did a fresh format.
Re: Presentmon dwm.exe
Posted: 06 Feb 2026, 11:55
by zENNy
kyube wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 09:31
zENNy wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026, 14:56
It's a misleading thing which occurrs, don't mind that.
Rely on SK (if offline / no kernel AC game), RTSS' overlay (not the same as MSI Afterburner's overlay) or FrameView .csv to figure out the presentation model of the specific game you're interested in.
FrameView works fine on AMD dGPUs, which is what you have.
Off-topic — you shouldn't be using Razer's app, nor Bluetooth.
Thank you for the information.
Re: Presentmon dwm.exe
Posted: 06 Feb 2026, 13:38
by Hyote
zENNy wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 11:54
Hyote wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 10:59
kyube wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 09:31
zENNy wrote: ↑05 Feb 2026, 14:56
It's a misleading thing which occurrs, don't mind that.
Rely on SK (if offline / no kernel AC game), RTSS' overlay (not the same as MSI Afterburner's overlay) or FrameView .csv to figure out the presentation model of the specific game you're interested in.
FrameView works fine on AMD dGPUs, which is what you have.
Off-topic — you shouldn't be using Razer's app, nor Bluetooth.
I JUST SAW THOSE ICONS, this guy is the final boss of input lag and data harvesting.
They’re all disabled anyway, nothing changes even like that — don’t worry. I just did a fresh format.
Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude, it was just funny for a moment because I didn't see them initially. Also I think Razer's app is fine, even though I only used it years ago.
Re: Presentmon dwm.exe
Posted: 06 Feb 2026, 14:28
by RealNC
kyube wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 09:31
Rely on:
•
SpecialK (if offline / no kernel AC game),
•
RTSS' overlay (not the same as MSI Afterburner's overlay)
How do you inject SpecialK or RTSS into DWM.exe and have them show the overlay?
Re: Presentmon dwm.exe
Posted: 06 Feb 2026, 14:40
by kyube
RealNC wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 14:28
How do you inject SpecialK or RTSS into DWM.exe and have them show the overlay?
Re-read.
kyube wrote: ↑06 Feb 2026, 09:31
Rely on:
...
to figure out the presentation model of the specific game you're interested in.
The DWM.exe being reported as Legacy Flip used to happen to me when I ran a game in the background which was in HW:LFlip and alt-tabbed to check CLI data.
Hence why I told him to disregard that data and use other tools for troubleshooting games (which is likely what he was trying and came across this behavior)