[Bad LOD in Games | Juddering PC] Management Engine(Locked/Damaged) - Enhanced i/o issues [Closed/Not Relevant]

[naporitan]

Link - https://youtu.be/j9TgNFu1l3Y (in the comments below the video, the author shares his research, I recommend that you familiarize yourself.)

I would like to discuss this video.

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[cursed-gamer]

Man WTF?

[dermodemon]

interesting. i wish i could disable PSP on my b450m pro4-f to test this

[naporitan]

interesting. i wish i could disable PSP on my b450m pro4-f to test this

You've got it all wrong. on the contrary, the subsystem must work otherwise you will remain in this universe. (to put it simply)

[phx]

Under the video in which the author indicated the problem for testing, it is clearly written.

If the "video enhancer" works, the picture will be smooth.
Without processing, you will see jerks.

Gaming monitors generally don't have "Motion Smoothing" technology because it adds input lag.
However, some high-Hz monitors do not support <48 Hz when connected via a display port, some can only do this via HDMI.

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The interpolation method is the most advanced. The processor analyzes two adjacent frames and forms an intermediate one between them.
Which is why dynamic scenes can “freeze” or, conversely, “jerks”.

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24/48fps side-by-side comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ih7gOE4yew

[Z3CrosS]

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[delve]

there are some companies that offer PCs with disabled intel me, wondering if this could help or make things worse.

[dervu]

So it is enough to tell by comparing GPU load if you have this issue?

[cursed-gamer]

My GPU load was wrong on GTX 1660, RTX 2060 and RTX 3060.

[MeveSPB]

Yesterday I watched all the author's videos and read all the comments.
This is all very interesting, but it is not clear to me how the author made a general conclusion from private observations that the reason is the correct combination of components CPU +PCH +INTEL ME + Windows retail.

I want to understand why such a conclusion was made?

Two systems are compared, one of which is perfect, the other is not. What does this mean? Not all computers display games in the same way — this is a fact that is 100% displayed in the video.

If we think further, these two systems are not identical, can we fairly find the reason for their incorrect operation? In one of the comments there was information that the theory was tested on 50 PCs, and somewhere the problem surfaced, somewhere not.
How can we say that this statistic gives us the right to draw an unambiguous conclusion? What exactly was evaluated, were they 50 identical systems or different ones?

How fair is it to compare systems with different bios settings (in particular voltage, etc.)?
Maybe it just so happened that on one of the systems, by a happy coincidence, everything worked as it should, but on the other system, the default values did not fit?
Are there such standards, and how adequate are they?
Since the issue of settings has not been raised, I assume that the author considers it not entirely significant. There is no answer to the question "why is this happening", but there is an answer to the question "how to avoid it" - it's luck.

1) First you have to win the "silicon lottery" - CPU+motherboard
2) You should also be lucky with the proper operation of the Engine Managment drivers.
3) You have one attempt not to break INTEL ME. If one of the system bundles is bad, it will ruin the whole system, without rolling back
4) Windows can break your Intel ME work, which is also not treatable.



The most interesting thing is how could it happen that there was a perfect system, but then it broke down due to a change of equipment (RAM and like a hard drive?).
Can a hardware change really break something in this INTEL ME black horse?


Correct me if something was misunderstood.
My folders are shaking, and I see image breaks on the video with Bruce (240Hz monitor), I have problems with PCI drivers, Management Engine, I/O (It starts only after removing devices -does MSI tech support say? that this is normal)/
I have new expensive hardware, Windows is really off, but am I still a loser?