Can we clear up the real culprit of input lag? (SOFTLOCKED intel ME/PCH/subsystem)

[agstrato]

I don't have any Intel/AMD engineer in my circle of friends and honestly i won't spend any time with this bs anymore, even MoKiChU from ASUS forums (a guy that releases updated drivers) said clearly that the Events tab does not matter the only one that matters is the General. I went back to W11 with devices "stopped" just because it moves a lot better for me. One more thing to keep in mind is that these "events" happen only when installing/updating drivers if there was something to it these events would say started each time you turn on your pc (makes sence, doesn't it?). Bottom line is that it didn't change anything to get them started/running, the boot screen going dark at boot is because oems have customized splash loading screen and btw my windows is activated with hwid, so yeah none of it makes any sence. You can believe what you want, i'm just saying what i experienced with these things "started".

I mean you can pretty much see this because if you take a look at your internet adapters, wifi or ethernet whatever, you can find it says stopped in events but you are connected to the internet, aren't you?

ye, get out of this thread

Maybe you're the one that should get out of the whole forum, before you make people spend money for a new pc and a 200+ euro usb windows install from microsoft.

haha, tell me what did you do that was useful for this forum?
we all understood that you were able to launch the chipset drivers without errors, well done. Now leave this forum and never come here again.

What i did useful? Let's see, first of all i have provided people the BEST way to counter lagcompensation. Second thing i did is spared people from potentially spending more money for nothing at all (this Intel ME bs). Besides do i really need to do something useful? What if i'm just a guy stating his opinion, is that a problem? This kind of mentality that you have never fixes anything because you have currently "softlocked" your brain into believing another guys bs. I mean come on it's pretty simple, go to your internet adapter, it's stopped but you are connected, what do you think that is? Magic? Spare me the bs. And yes i did believe it myself until i got those devices started and seen it made 0 difference.
I will drop by any post i feel like, who are you to tell me what to do? PS: Is the truth bothering you?

[Slender]

ye, get out of this thread

Maybe you're the one that should get out of the whole forum, before you make people spend money for a new pc and a 200+ euro usb windows install from microsoft.

haha, tell me what did you do that was useful for this forum?
we all understood that you were able to launch the chipset drivers without errors, well done. Now leave this forum and never come here again.

What i did useful? Let's see, first of all i have provided people the BEST way to counter lagcompensation. Second thing i did is spared people from potentially spending more money for nothing at all (this Intel ME bs). Besides do i really need to do something useful? What if i'm just a guy stating his opinion, is that a problem? This kind of mentality that you have never fixes anything because you have currently "softlocked" your brain into believing another guys bs. I mean come on it's pretty simple, go to your internet adapter, it's stopped but you are connected, what do you think that is? Magic? Spare me the bs. And yes i did believe it myself until i got those devices started and seen it made 0 difference.
I will drop by any post i feel like, who are you to tell me what to do? PS: Is the truth bothering you?

Do you realize that an error in the device manager may not indicate that something is wrong in the hardware part of the PC?
it's like disproving 1 thing out of 10 and saying that the whole theory is wrong.
so stop writing about how great you are and how you were able to overcome the error. That is nothing.

[agstrato]

Maybe you're the one that should get out of the whole forum, before you make people spend money for a new pc and a 200+ euro usb windows install from microsoft.

haha, tell me what did you do that was useful for this forum?
we all understood that you were able to launch the chipset drivers without errors, well done. Now leave this forum and never come here again.

What i did useful? Let's see, first of all i have provided people the BEST way to counter lagcompensation. Second thing i did is spared people from potentially spending more money for nothing at all (this Intel ME bs). Besides do i really need to do something useful? What if i'm just a guy stating his opinion, is that a problem? This kind of mentality that you have never fixes anything because you have currently "softlocked" your brain into believing another guys bs. I mean come on it's pretty simple, go to your internet adapter, it's stopped but you are connected, what do you think that is? Magic? Spare me the bs. And yes i did believe it myself until i got those devices started and seen it made 0 difference.
I will drop by any post i feel like, who are you to tell me what to do? PS: Is the truth bothering you?

Do you realize that an error in the device manager may not indicate that something is wrong in the hardware part of the PC?
it's like disproving 1 thing out of 10 and saying that the whole theory is wrong.
so stop writing about how great you are and how you were able to overcome the error. That is nothing.

Really? Do you realize that you are currently connected to the internet with a device that says stopped in the "Events" tab? Do you understand what Intel Moderator meant when he said that the whole computer shuts down in exactly 30 minutes if Intel ME has a problem? Do you know that you are watching tests made with a processor from 2011? What kind of monitors did people have back then? What you consider an error is actually not because General TAB says "This device is working properly." and i see it does. How do i know that? EASY, because my PC doesn't shut down in exactly 30 minutes. Like i said, you have softlocked your brain right now and are unable to discuss this with an open mind. I'm starting to believe that you are somehow jealous i managed to do this, and i can't see the reason behind it, like it makes no sence... If anything i just wasted my time

[Slender]

haha, tell me what did you do that was useful for this forum?
we all understood that you were able to launch the chipset drivers without errors, well done. Now leave this forum and never come here again.

What i did useful? Let's see, first of all i have provided people the BEST way to counter lagcompensation. Second thing i did is spared people from potentially spending more money for nothing at all (this Intel ME bs). Besides do i really need to do something useful? What if i'm just a guy stating his opinion, is that a problem? This kind of mentality that you have never fixes anything because you have currently "softlocked" your brain into believing another guys bs. I mean come on it's pretty simple, go to your internet adapter, it's stopped but you are connected, what do you think that is? Magic? Spare me the bs. And yes i did believe it myself until i got those devices started and seen it made 0 difference.
I will drop by any post i feel like, who are you to tell me what to do? PS: Is the truth bothering you?

Do you realize that an error in the device manager may not indicate that something is wrong in the hardware part of the PC?
it's like disproving 1 thing out of 10 and saying that the whole theory is wrong.
so stop writing about how great you are and how you were able to overcome the error. That is nothing.

Really? Do you realize that you are currently connected to the internet with a device that says stopped in the "Events" tab? Do you understand what Intel Moderator meant when he said that the whole computer shuts down in exactly 30 minutes if Intel ME has a problem? Do you know that you are watching tests made with a processor from 2011? What kind of monitors did people have back then? What you consider an error is actually not because General TAB says "This device is working properly." and i see it does. How do i know that? EASY, because my PC doesn't shut down in exactly 30 minutes. Like i said, you have softlocked your brain right now and are unable to discuss this with an open mind. I'm starting to believe that you are somehow jealous i managed to do this, and i can't see the reason behind it, like it makes no sence... If anything i just wasted my time

i can disable ME and it not turn off my pc after 30 min. (yes i can do it)
im use me_cleaner for z370, and bios hard disable me (temporaly disable) for z790.
your info - only if ME is damaged.

no, i dont care what you do, because all what you do - nothing, i dont care about nothing.

Why do you even think that I trust this guy? Half of what he says has nothing to do with reality, but he got the discussion moving. I am absolutely sure that the problem is not in electricity, the problem is in the PC itself.

[greenenemy]

Search up "dota 2 uftotest blurbusters". The Frame rate versus test is what is necessary to prove this.

Found out about this recently after having input lag for almost 10 years. Do the dota 2 UFO test at 48 fps. If there is juddering then your processor/motherboard are softlocked, and there is no saving your system. Try the test on a laptop and a phone, it will be smooth at 48fps on those, without any juddering/tearing in the image.

Does it stutter for you even with "Frame Pacing: Perfect" ? because default is "Frame Pacing: Slight Stutter" and you didn't mention this important setting.

[agstrato]

What i did useful? Let's see, first of all i have provided people the BEST way to counter lagcompensation. Second thing i did is spared people from potentially spending more money for nothing at all (this Intel ME bs). Besides do i really need to do something useful? What if i'm just a guy stating his opinion, is that a problem? This kind of mentality that you have never fixes anything because you have currently "softlocked" your brain into believing another guys bs. I mean come on it's pretty simple, go to your internet adapter, it's stopped but you are connected, what do you think that is? Magic? Spare me the bs. And yes i did believe it myself until i got those devices started and seen it made 0 difference.
I will drop by any post i feel like, who are you to tell me what to do? PS: Is the truth bothering you?

Do you realize that an error in the device manager may not indicate that something is wrong in the hardware part of the PC?
it's like disproving 1 thing out of 10 and saying that the whole theory is wrong.
so stop writing about how great you are and how you were able to overcome the error. That is nothing.

Really? Do you realize that you are currently connected to the internet with a device that says stopped in the "Events" tab? Do you understand what Intel Moderator meant when he said that the whole computer shuts down in exactly 30 minutes if Intel ME has a problem? Do you know that you are watching tests made with a processor from 2011? What kind of monitors did people have back then? What you consider an error is actually not because General TAB says "This device is working properly." and i see it does. How do i know that? EASY, because my PC doesn't shut down in exactly 30 minutes. Like i said, you have softlocked your brain right now and are unable to discuss this with an open mind. I'm starting to believe that you are somehow jealous i managed to do this, and i can't see the reason behind it, like it makes no sence... If anything i just wasted my time

i can disable ME and it not turn off my pc after 30 min. (yes i can do it)
im use me_cleaner for z370, and bios hard disable me (temporaly disable) for z790.
your info - only if ME is damaged.

no, i dont care what you do, because all what you do - nothing, i dont care about nothing.

Why do you even think that I trust this guy? Half of what he says has nothing to do with reality, but he got the discussion moving. I am absolutely sure that the problem is not in electricity, the problem is in the PC itself.

You can't actually disable ME because it starts before bios, unless you have Libreboot or Purism and even then it's not clear. I'm just giving you a few examples while debunking the theory that somehow Intel ME has something to do with it. You seem to care enough about what i do because i can see you trying to tell me what to (not) do, it's funny. Remember it was you who asked me what "i did" and even though i didn't have any reason to inform you of things i did i was kind enough to do it. You can't go around making assumptions like that because someone might believe you and spend big bux for nothing, you understand or is this what you want?
My info is pretty simple, you are connected to the internet with an adapter that is stopped and you are reading this message on a monitor that is stopped as well, i can't make it more simple than this, i think anyone can get this. This discussion will get moving after more people like s1mple change city/country and find they can't kill shit anymore. BTW i can see you are avoiding all my questions and we both know why you're doing that, don't we?
PS: If you can't keep up a conversation with somebody maybe don't start one or at least be open minded about it. Thanks!

[Slender]

Do you realize that an error in the device manager may not indicate that something is wrong in the hardware part of the PC?
it's like disproving 1 thing out of 10 and saying that the whole theory is wrong.
so stop writing about how great you are and how you were able to overcome the error. That is nothing.

Really? Do you realize that you are currently connected to the internet with a device that says stopped in the "Events" tab? Do you understand what Intel Moderator meant when he said that the whole computer shuts down in exactly 30 minutes if Intel ME has a problem? Do you know that you are watching tests made with a processor from 2011? What kind of monitors did people have back then? What you consider an error is actually not because General TAB says "This device is working properly." and i see it does. How do i know that? EASY, because my PC doesn't shut down in exactly 30 minutes. Like i said, you have softlocked your brain right now and are unable to discuss this with an open mind. I'm starting to believe that you are somehow jealous i managed to do this, and i can't see the reason behind it, like it makes no sence... If anything i just wasted my time

i can disable ME and it not turn off my pc after 30 min. (yes i can do it)
im use me_cleaner for z370, and bios hard disable me (temporaly disable) for z790.
your info - only if ME is damaged.

no, i dont care what you do, because all what you do - nothing, i dont care about nothing.

Why do you even think that I trust this guy? Half of what he says has nothing to do with reality, but he got the discussion moving. I am absolutely sure that the problem is not in electricity, the problem is in the PC itself.

You can't actually disable ME because it starts before bios, unless you have Libreboot or Purism and even then it's not clear. I'm just giving you a few examples while debunking the theory that somehow Intel ME has something to do with it. You seem to care enough about what i do because i can see you trying to tell me what to (not) do, it's funny. Remember it was you who asked me what "i did" and even though i didn't have any reason to inform you of things i did i was kind enough to do it. You can't go around making assumptions like that because someone might believe you and spend big bux for nothing, you understand or is this what you want?
My info is pretty simple, you are connected to the internet with an adapter that is stopped and you are reading this message on a monitor that is stopped as well, i can't make it more simple than this, i think anyone can get this. This discussion will get moving after more people like s1mple change city/country and find they can't kill shit anymore. BTW i can see you are avoiding all my questions and we both know why you're doing that, don't we?
PS: If you can't keep up a conversation with somebody maybe don't start one or at least be open minded about it. Thanks!

I don't want to continue the dialogue with you anymore. I don't really care what you did because in reality you didn't do anything to somehow solve the problem. You say that I envy you, but why? You haven’t provided a single solution, why can anyone envy you? Because you removed the error line in the device manager and wrote 20 messages about it?
Just don't make me laugh.
Anyone on this forum will find a solution, but not you. goodbye

[agstrato]

Really? Do you realize that you are currently connected to the internet with a device that says stopped in the "Events" tab? Do you understand what Intel Moderator meant when he said that the whole computer shuts down in exactly 30 minutes if Intel ME has a problem? Do you know that you are watching tests made with a processor from 2011? What kind of monitors did people have back then? What you consider an error is actually not because General TAB says "This device is working properly." and i see it does. How do i know that? EASY, because my PC doesn't shut down in exactly 30 minutes. Like i said, you have softlocked your brain right now and are unable to discuss this with an open mind. I'm starting to believe that you are somehow jealous i managed to do this, and i can't see the reason behind it, like it makes no sence... If anything i just wasted my time

i can disable ME and it not turn off my pc after 30 min. (yes i can do it)
im use me_cleaner for z370, and bios hard disable me (temporaly disable) for z790.
your info - only if ME is damaged.

no, i dont care what you do, because all what you do - nothing, i dont care about nothing.

Why do you even think that I trust this guy? Half of what he says has nothing to do with reality, but he got the discussion moving. I am absolutely sure that the problem is not in electricity, the problem is in the PC itself.

You can't actually disable ME because it starts before bios, unless you have Libreboot or Purism and even then it's not clear. I'm just giving you a few examples while debunking the theory that somehow Intel ME has something to do with it. You seem to care enough about what i do because i can see you trying to tell me what to (not) do, it's funny. Remember it was you who asked me what "i did" and even though i didn't have any reason to inform you of things i did i was kind enough to do it. You can't go around making assumptions like that because someone might believe you and spend big bux for nothing, you understand or is this what you want?
My info is pretty simple, you are connected to the internet with an adapter that is stopped and you are reading this message on a monitor that is stopped as well, i can't make it more simple than this, i think anyone can get this. This discussion will get moving after more people like s1mple change city/country and find they can't kill shit anymore. BTW i can see you are avoiding all my questions and we both know why you're doing that, don't we?
PS: If you can't keep up a conversation with somebody maybe don't start one or at least be open minded about it. Thanks!

I don't want to continue the dialogue with you anymore. I don't really care what you did because in reality you didn't do anything to somehow solve the problem. You say that I envy you, but why? You haven’t provided a single solution, why can anyone envy you? Because you removed the error line in the device manager and wrote 20 messages about it?
Just don't make me laugh.
Anyone on this forum will find a solution, but not you. goodbye

I like how you somehow made this thing about me. There is nothing you can dialogue with me because you don't seem to have enough knowledge about PCs to do this. I haven't removed anything from Device Manager i just installed Windows 10 in a specific way. I'm not sure if you envy me, i was asking because you said some things that made me think of it. I quote this from you: "so stop writing about how great you are and how you were able to overcome the error". If there's anything else you want to add, i'm here but just don't make a fool out of yourself again and maybe try to have an open mind about things and try to answer the things i questioned you about. Oh and one last thing, don't try to give people commands over the internet, it will most likely always backfire on you. Thanks!

[Hyote]

Luckily I can have my daily dose of fun after r/shitposting dropped in quality. Almost every topic here is worthy of becoming a copypasta so I collected quite a lot of them if someone would like to see a compilation.

[agstrato]

Luckily I can have my daily dose of fun after r/shitposting dropped in quality. Almost every topic here is worthy of becoming a copypasta so I collected quite a lot of them if someone would like to see a compilation.

Cmon you gotta admit it's funny they even believed this in the first place. Unfortunately for a short time, i was one of them until i figured out I'm connected to a stopped ethernet adapter and reading stuff on a stopped monitor