Can we clear up the real culprit of input lag? (SOFTLOCKED intel ME/PCH/subsystem)

Separate area for niche lag issues including unexpected causes and/or electromagnetic interference (ECC = retransmits = lag). Interference (EMI, EMF) of all kinds (wired, wireless, external, internal, environment, bad component) can cause error-correction latencies like a bad modem connection. Troubleshooting may require university degree. Your lag issue is likely not EMI. Please read this before entering sub-forum.
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Re: Can we clear up the real culprit of input lag? (SOFTLOCKED intel ME/PCH/subsystem)

Post by Slender » 13 Jun 2024, 14:12

Hyote wrote:
13 Jun 2024, 10:54
Luckily I can have my daily dose of fun after r/shitposting dropped in quality. Almost every topic here is worthy of becoming a copypasta so I collected quite a lot of them if someone would like to see a compilation.
haha, hete, shut up
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13308&p=103286#p103286
"I found Processor 0 and 1 to be preferrable over Default and the Lock Interrupt Routing gave me the best feel. Emphasis is on feel. Random bullshit go kind of research."

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Re: Can we clear up the real culprit of input lag? (SOFTLOCKED intel ME/PCH/subsystem)

Post by Hyote » 13 Jun 2024, 22:19

Slender wrote:
13 Jun 2024, 14:12
Hyote wrote:
13 Jun 2024, 10:54
Luckily I can have my daily dose of fun after r/shitposting dropped in quality. Almost every topic here is worthy of becoming a copypasta so I collected quite a lot of them if someone would like to see a compilation.
haha, hete, shut up
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13308&p=103286#p103286
"I found Processor 0 and 1 to be preferrable over Default and the Lock Interrupt Routing gave me the best feel. Emphasis is on feel. Random bullshit go kind of research."
You see, I posted some things that weren't based on actual research but they weren't wrong either. At least I continue looking up everything and don't spend 2 weeks replying to nonsense like this.

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Re: Can we clear up the real culprit of input lag? (SOFTLOCKED intel ME/PCH/subsystem)

Post by Slender » 13 Jun 2024, 23:08

Hyote wrote:
13 Jun 2024, 22:19
Slender wrote:
13 Jun 2024, 14:12
Hyote wrote:
13 Jun 2024, 10:54
Luckily I can have my daily dose of fun after r/shitposting dropped in quality. Almost every topic here is worthy of becoming a copypasta so I collected quite a lot of them if someone would like to see a compilation.
haha, hete, shut up
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13308&p=103286#p103286
"I found Processor 0 and 1 to be preferrable over Default and the Lock Interrupt Routing gave me the best feel. Emphasis is on feel. Random bullshit go kind of research."
You see, I posted some things that weren't based on actual research but they weren't wrong either. At least I continue looking up everything and don't spend 2 weeks replying to nonsense like this.
nonsense is use affinity and priority for windows apps

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Re: Can we clear up the real culprit of input lag? (SOFTLOCKED intel ME/PCH/subsystem)

Post by 2kmules » 14 Jun 2024, 19:25

Hyote wrote:
13 Jun 2024, 10:54
Luckily I can have my daily dose of fun after r/shitposting dropped in quality. Almost every topic here is worthy of becoming a copypasta so I collected quite a lot of them if someone would like to see a compilation.
Do you actually have a better explanation as to why so many people have unsmooth image, even at high refresh rates and fps? I don't see how anything here, other than some people's comments arguing with each other, is shitpost worthy. I've had many different systems, some with juddery image on that UFO test, some that don't, and this is the most plausible theory I've found as to why it occurs.

Also, does your PC actually pass that UFO test, at 48 fps? This is intended to help people who actually have the issue, or at least get a better explanation as to why input lag is such a widespread issue on modern and powerful hardware. I don't see the point in mocking this theory until we have a better explanation, and electricity is not it for the majority of people.

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Re: Can we clear up the real culprit of input lag? (SOFTLOCKED intel ME/PCH/subsystem)

Post by Kipperii » 15 Jun 2024, 02:09

Hyote wrote:
13 Jun 2024, 10:54
Luckily I can have my daily dose of fun after r/shitposting dropped in quality. Almost every topic here is worthy of becoming a copypasta so I collected quite a lot of them if someone would like to see a compilation.
Half a year later: The problem is sperm, please join r/nofap to preserve more sperm for spiritual awakening and strengthen the body's magnetic field to eliminate desync.

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Re: Can we clear up the real culprit of input lag? (SOFTLOCKED intel ME/PCH/subsystem)

Post by Slender » 15 Jun 2024, 03:48

Kipperii wrote:
15 Jun 2024, 02:09
Hyote wrote:
13 Jun 2024, 10:54
Luckily I can have my daily dose of fun after r/shitposting dropped in quality. Almost every topic here is worthy of becoming a copypasta so I collected quite a lot of them if someone would like to see a compilation.
Half a year later: The problem is sperm, please join r/nofap to preserve more sperm for spiritual awakening and strengthen the body's magnetic field to eliminate desync.
true

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Re: Can we clear up the real culprit of input lag? (SOFTLOCKED intel ME/PCH/subsystem)

Post by 2kmules » 15 Jun 2024, 18:56

Half a year later: The problem is sperm, please join r/nofap to preserve more sperm for spiritual awakening and strengthen the body's magnetic field to eliminate desync.
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Go buy a used motherboard and cpu and see if you get no desync. Compare with a healthy system. It's not complicated.

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Re: Can we clear up the real culprit of input lag? (SOFTLOCKED intel ME/PCH/subsystem)

Post by dervu » 16 Jun 2024, 04:29

Go buy this, go buy that. What about actually proving it on more than 1 device (especially modern ones) by author of those videos and not dropping burden of proof on other people? If he is so sure why he doesn't give all information to some technical youtuber with a lot of hardware availibility to test it out?
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Re: Can we clear up the real culprit of input lag? (SOFTLOCKED intel ME/PCH/subsystem)

Post by Slender » 17 Jun 2024, 12:57

dervu wrote:
16 Jun 2024, 04:29
Go buy this, go buy that. What about actually proving it on more than 1 device (especially modern ones) by author of those videos and not dropping burden of proof on other people? If he is so sure why he doesn't give all information to some technical youtuber with a lot of hardware availibility to test it out?
He's only had this problem for six months, he had no idea about this forum and the input delay. He was just playing games.
Problems with draw distance, the “grid” on the monitor, and ladders on textures have existed at least since 2010. And there is still no solution.

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Re: Can we clear up the real culprit of input lag? (SOFTLOCKED intel ME/PCH/subsystem)

Post by Mr1991 » 17 Jun 2024, 18:12

If you have a modern Intel CPU with Intels Management Engine built in, you’ve got another complete operating system running that you might not have had any clue was there: MINIX, that’s right.

MINIX the Unix-like OS originally developed by Andrew Tanenbaum as an educational tool - to demonstrate operating system programming - is built into every new Intel CPU. MINIX is running on “ring 3” on its own CPU, a CPU that you, the user/owner of the machine, have no access to.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180102015 ... intel.html

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