Trying to recall what was the monitor released this year with scanline BFI done with FALD
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betonKruglosuTotchno
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Trying to recall what was the monitor released this year with scanline BFI done with FALD
I heard a lot about the programmatic BFI:
https://blurbusters.com/crt-simulation- ... -than-bfi/
viewtopic.php?t=10050
but I do not care too much about them. But I do care about some monitor which got released this year which has scanline BFI making it shockingly close to CRT thanks to it's FALD and the brightness limit was great on it too.
I recall it was showcased on Computex 2025 but not yet available. What's the model?
https://blurbusters.com/crt-simulation- ... -than-bfi/
viewtopic.php?t=10050
but I do not care too much about them. But I do care about some monitor which got released this year which has scanline BFI making it shockingly close to CRT thanks to it's FALD and the brightness limit was great on it too.
I recall it was showcased on Computex 2025 but not yet available. What's the model?
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betonKruglosuTotchno
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Re: Trying to recall what was the monitor released this year with scanline BFI done with FALD
I probably found it. It's not FALD but rather side backlight used to scan the panel, it's called Dyac2.
https://zowie.benq.com/en-us/knowledge/ ... -dyac.html
Would really love to know if anybody tested it.
https://zowie.benq.com/en-us/knowledge/ ... -dyac.html
Would really love to know if anybody tested it.
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betonKruglosuTotchno
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Re: Trying to recall what was the monitor released this year with scanline BFI done with FALD
Found a review in Japanese and they are doing the pursuit shot wrong lmao.
https://jisakuhibi.jp/zowie-xl2586x
https://jisakuhibi.jp/wp-content/upload ... 63d7ab.jpg
Every shot they take does not have long exposure to capture motion across multiple frames. I feel like a damn genius knowing that pursuit photo should last for several frames and that any photo demonstrating motion clarity should pursue a moving object.
https://jisakuhibi.jp/zowie-xl2586x
https://jisakuhibi.jp/wp-content/upload ... 63d7ab.jpg
Every shot they take does not have long exposure to capture motion across multiple frames. I feel like a damn genius knowing that pursuit photo should last for several frames and that any photo demonstrating motion clarity should pursue a moving object.
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betonKruglosuTotchno
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Re: Trying to recall what was the monitor released this year with scanline BFI done with FALD
As I understand it from the Rtings review it's basically a gimmick at anything lower than 540 Hz (there are pursuit photos there) because crosstalk is terrible and the pulse is longer at lower refresh rates:
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/ ... ie-xl2586x
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/ ... ie-xl2586x
Re: Trying to recall what was the monitor released this year with scanline BFI done with FALD
Dyac 2 (XL2586X, XL2586X+), ELMB 2 (XG248QSG) and MBR+ (AG246FK6) are all rolling-scan backlight strobing implementations.betonKruglosuTotchno wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025, 16:41As I understand it from the Rtings review it's basically a gimmick at anything lower than 540 Hz (there are pursuit photos there) because crosstalk is terrible and the pulse is longer at lower refresh rates:
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/ ... ie-xl2586x
I'm not sure whether the BenQ models allow you to adjust the pulse width using Chief's utility.
I recall that not being possible.
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betonKruglosuTotchno
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Re: Trying to recall what was the monitor released this year with scanline BFI done with FALD
Considering how wide a sector of edge backlight is I wonder if it will change anything significantly.kyube wrote: ↑07 Oct 2025, 13:21Dyac 2 (XL2586X, XL2586X+), ELMB 2 (XG248QSG) and MBR+ (AG246FK6) are all rolling-scan backlight strobing implementations.betonKruglosuTotchno wrote: ↑23 Sep 2025, 16:41As I understand it from the Rtings review it's basically a gimmick at anything lower than 540 Hz (there are pursuit photos there) because crosstalk is terrible and the pulse is longer at lower refresh rates:
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/ ... ie-xl2586x
I'm not sure whether the BenQ models allow you to adjust the pulse width using Chief's utility.
I recall that not being possible.
Do any of those use FALD for that?
Re: Trying to recall what was the monitor released this year with scanline BFI done with FALD
Nope, none of those are a full array WLED backlight. They all employ side mounted edge-lit WLED's as a backlight solution.betonKruglosuTotchno wrote: ↑11 Oct 2025, 09:27Considering how wide a sector of edge backlight is I wonder if it will change anything significantly.
Do any of those use FALD for that?
I do believe there is a FALD rolling scan solution on the market — the Sony Inzone M9 II source
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betonKruglosuTotchno
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Re: Trying to recall what was the monitor released this year with scanline BFI done with FALD
I learned just now that there are several FALD IPS monitors
AOC AG327UXM
Innocn GA32V1M
Titan Army P326MV Max
and at least one of them has scanning BFI as detailed in this review with a high speed camera.
https://jisakuhibi.jp/titan-army-p326mv ... how-to-use
even though it's a bit stupid when combined with VRR.
The only caveat of FALD is that the backlight zone isolation is not great if I understand it correctly.
AOC AG327UXM
Innocn GA32V1M
Titan Army P326MV Max
and at least one of them has scanning BFI as detailed in this review with a high speed camera.
https://jisakuhibi.jp/titan-army-p326mv ... how-to-use
even though it's a bit stupid when combined with VRR.
The only caveat of FALD is that the backlight zone isolation is not great if I understand it correctly.
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Re: Trying to recall what was the monitor released this year with scanline BFI done with FALD
As said above by "betonKruglosuTotchno" to further expand this topic and interest people of Titan Army.
I'm actually surprised thees monitors aren't more popular and more blurbuster friendly as they inhabit a LCD with CRT performance. Only negative of Titan Army is they build a monitor line then make the Plus (+) version a while later so your stuck with a non-gaming optmized version.
All of the Mini-led Titan Army monitors that have Dyds 1.0 are CRT performant right now. With QD-Film layer
Most use BFI but Titan Army produced both Dyds 1.0 and upcoming 2.0
Dyds 1.0 is at 1.5 CRT performance a 15,630Hz; 0.03% higher or 0.05Hz higher than NTSC. Each miniled zone is row-by-row scanning like a CRT it races the beam the moment the pixel is shone the mini-led breaks off at about -64 microseconds. Making it 15 times faster than the sample&hold 1,040Hz ~963mcs Samsung Display.
Most people don't realize what Dyds is and don't realize it's CRT 1.5. CRT 2.0 is rolling scan with microled and also dual-scanning technology in Dyds 2.0 a beam racing from the top and bottom to meet in the middle to reduce crosstalk and other negatives like Blurbusters talks about. Dyds 2.0 also has intelligent mode and does VRR Rolling Scan so like Nvidia's Pulsar instead of perfected BFI vsync BFI + VRR BFI for both methods we've mastered BFI. Dyds is a CRT flat panel.
https://www.facebook.com/TITANARMYGLOBA ... 593124942/
He speaks in Chinese but you can see the images and notice what it says in the translation captions below.
Titan Army Lone Brave Dyds 2.0 monitors come out later they're being sold at about 300-400 at 1440P 24-27" in China at the moment. But I'd rather take an improved P275MV+ with Dyds 2.0 27 4K160Hz/1080|320Hz that 4K at 160 is operating faster and less motion blur than the persistence of sample and hold blur of the Samsung 1,040Hz since even at that speed it's still sample and hold. I prefer Vsync with added consistent latency than VRR but if VRR can be improved that is cool not bad.
I'm surprised more people don't buy these monitors especially considering we can go to CRT 3.0 rolling scan with multi-scan you can have more than 2 and have upwards of 8 or more beams sweep across the microled panel and paint in various ranges 10mcs, 8mcs, 1.5mcs and paint an image for a CRT Purist a single beam suffices but for those who want sharpness and image motion upwards 8 beams or more.
There is a few youtube reviews on the miniled monitors used by Titan Army but next year Dyds 2.0 shall come. These monitors might not have as sharp as motion blur as BFI per say as the strobe punch is liked by some despite brightness drop. But it emulates a CRT beam racing. BFI still has an upper hand slightly but if your wanting a bright image less flicker I don't see how you can skip the Titan Army ones.
I'm surprised no major manufacturer went this far Titan Army is certain a competitive league ahead of others.
I think if someone buys a good Titan Army monitor particularly last them till microLED shows up at least 4-5 years of monitor usage.
I'm actually surprised thees monitors aren't more popular and more blurbuster friendly as they inhabit a LCD with CRT performance. Only negative of Titan Army is they build a monitor line then make the Plus (+) version a while later so your stuck with a non-gaming optmized version.
All of the Mini-led Titan Army monitors that have Dyds 1.0 are CRT performant right now. With QD-Film layer
Most use BFI but Titan Army produced both Dyds 1.0 and upcoming 2.0
Dyds 1.0 is at 1.5 CRT performance a 15,630Hz; 0.03% higher or 0.05Hz higher than NTSC. Each miniled zone is row-by-row scanning like a CRT it races the beam the moment the pixel is shone the mini-led breaks off at about -64 microseconds. Making it 15 times faster than the sample&hold 1,040Hz ~963mcs Samsung Display.
Most people don't realize what Dyds is and don't realize it's CRT 1.5. CRT 2.0 is rolling scan with microled and also dual-scanning technology in Dyds 2.0 a beam racing from the top and bottom to meet in the middle to reduce crosstalk and other negatives like Blurbusters talks about. Dyds 2.0 also has intelligent mode and does VRR Rolling Scan so like Nvidia's Pulsar instead of perfected BFI vsync BFI + VRR BFI for both methods we've mastered BFI. Dyds is a CRT flat panel.
https://www.facebook.com/TITANARMYGLOBA ... 593124942/
He speaks in Chinese but you can see the images and notice what it says in the translation captions below.
Titan Army Lone Brave Dyds 2.0 monitors come out later they're being sold at about 300-400 at 1440P 24-27" in China at the moment. But I'd rather take an improved P275MV+ with Dyds 2.0 27 4K160Hz/1080|320Hz that 4K at 160 is operating faster and less motion blur than the persistence of sample and hold blur of the Samsung 1,040Hz since even at that speed it's still sample and hold. I prefer Vsync with added consistent latency than VRR but if VRR can be improved that is cool not bad.
I'm surprised more people don't buy these monitors especially considering we can go to CRT 3.0 rolling scan with multi-scan you can have more than 2 and have upwards of 8 or more beams sweep across the microled panel and paint in various ranges 10mcs, 8mcs, 1.5mcs and paint an image for a CRT Purist a single beam suffices but for those who want sharpness and image motion upwards 8 beams or more.
There is a few youtube reviews on the miniled monitors used by Titan Army but next year Dyds 2.0 shall come. These monitors might not have as sharp as motion blur as BFI per say as the strobe punch is liked by some despite brightness drop. But it emulates a CRT beam racing. BFI still has an upper hand slightly but if your wanting a bright image less flicker I don't see how you can skip the Titan Army ones.
I'm surprised no major manufacturer went this far Titan Army is certain a competitive league ahead of others.
I think if someone buys a good Titan Army monitor particularly last them till microLED shows up at least 4-5 years of monitor usage.
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betonKruglosuTotchno
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Re: Trying to recall what was the monitor released this year with scanline BFI done with FALD
I just learned that Gsync Pulsar is basically the scanning BFI but also with VRR but I don't have any idea about whether it's certification by Nvidia or something else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rnjawJ_QDc&t=699s
Also, I know from a review I posted earlier that P326MV has dumb-ish behaviour in VRR with BFI but IMO that's a trivial problem to solve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rnjawJ_QDc&t=699s
Also, I know from a review I posted earlier that P326MV has dumb-ish behaviour in VRR with BFI but IMO that's a trivial problem to solve.
I have no idea if P326MV has 2.0 but if it does then it's half-assed. Really hope they will be doing it better with a firmware update.Dyds 2.0 also has intelligent mode and does VRR Rolling Scan
