Benq Xl2411Z or Asus VG248QE

[Falkentyne]

It's a very good screen. Far better than VG248QE.
Same crosstalk as Benq Z monitors without VT tweaks.

More crosstalk but less overdrive ghosting than XL2411Z with Vt 1500 tweak.
Very good screen to buy if you are only going to use blur reduction at 100 hz and 120hz.

[Jourgensen]

? Yes we are debating and there is no problem on a forum like this.

Everyone is debating and writing intellectual masturbation with insignificant details without talking of the acer..... there is no debate, acer > all, Ive teste these screens, no debate at all, asus benq and aoc have the same panel with shitty colors wich is not the case on the acer.
Its becoming ridiculous seriously, you all buy acer and benq only because they have reviews everywhere, wake up people

On the 24" gsync screens :
Asus is shit, period, real shit like almost every asus products (it will shock, I don't care because thats the sad truth, I'm not paid to write fake reviews sorry, asus is the most overrated hardware brand). You are serious you don't buy asus, thats simple.
The Benq is ok only if you need the hdmi ports, wich its not the case for 95%, so if you don't care forget the benq, its expensive for the exact same shit as asus.
The aoc is the cheapest in my country and looks good, it has some hdmi ports wich is great, but same shitty colors as benq and asus, the only reason you will buy it its because its cheaper for the exact same shit as benq and asus.
The acer have the best panel, no usb ports, looks a bit ulgy, a f*cking blue led you must mask but who cares, you have the best panel.
In term of latencies motion blur and everything : they are all the SAME except if you have a robotic eye or if you are the top 20 korean player.

/topic.

[Falkentyne]

How much did Acer pay you to troll my forums?
Are you Mikey, by any chance?

Putting you on my ignore list.

And I'm going to tell you right now.
If you want to review the Acer make your own thread. No one cares here. This was a topic about the VG248 vs the XL2411Z, not your ego trip of trying to make a company money.

Blocked.

[Midgard95]

thank you for helping me , and im really sorry for my bad english. I hope it is ok. So i think im going with the Benq or LG .

Without any Advertisement , what can you say about the Acer Monitor? Because its much cheaper.

I wish you a Happy New Year btw.

[Falkentyne]

I don't know anything about the Acer monitor. It's cheaper for a reason.
I do know that the LG 24GM77 uses a true 8 bit panel.
However there have not been many reviews for this monitor, except Tom's hardware. And NONE of them tested the Motion 240 mode with in depth testing and NONE did Test UFO / crosstalk tests with it.

There are some video reviews of the monitor however and one person tested its blur reduction on and off, but you know 25-60 FPS youtube videos when testing 120 FPS games don't really come out that well.

Also keep in mind that the Acer does not have the blur reduction mode (I don't know if it has lightboost from 3d vision 2). The LG (and Benq) does. Even the VG248QE can use Lightboost with ToastyX Strobelight, and an AOC model has Lightboost permanently unlocked (you only need the refresh rates with the custom vertical totals to use it).

Note: all Gsync monitors have ULMB mode, but ULMB has better colors than Lightboost (because you can adjust colors) but worse crosstalk and worse ghosting than Lightboost and are all dimmer, too.

Anyway back to the subject of the LG 24GM77.
A user here, Avantu, is the only person I know who has actually done Strobe Crosstalk tests with the Motion 240 refresh rates of the LG 24GM77. As you can see the crosstalk is equal to the Benq Z series monitors WITHOUT vertical total tweaks, however the strobe phase timing the LG uses seems to change depending on the refresh rate.

100hz and 120hz seem to have crosstalk higher or lower on the screen from each other.
Here was Avantu's crosstalk tests for LG 24GM77
http://imgur.com/a/pfLe9

The inverse corona ghosting to the left of the UFO's is quite a bit lower than the Benq XL2411Z and XL2420Z. It looks a lot like the XL2720Z's blur reduction's AMA Low mode. Although the ghosting is still more than Lightboost on the 24" Benq Z and VG248QE monitors though, but much better colors.

You can see there is some ghosting behind the UFO but this is unavoidable without Lightboost's "per line overdrive".
Only the Acer XB270HU IPS panel (at 85 hz ULMB mode) seems to be lower among the non lightboost monitors.

[Jourgensen]

/facepalm

[Midgard95]

I got my XL2411Z now and i really like the monitor, but i need some help with the colour settings. My Black is a bit to grey, but i think thats just because of my high brightness. I only need a some more colorful screen , I am using the Monitor in Photo Mode but i miss some saturation on the screen.

Everything looks a bit grey

[Falkentyne]

It's a TN monitor, so you are NOT going to get true blacks on it.
The reason why VA monitors have "deep" blacks is due to black crush; if you test black level on the lagom.nl test on a VA panel, you will see noticeable black crush on here.

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php

The XL2430T has deeper blacks if you change the color vibrance away from "10" (older firmwares needed you to reduce it to 9 or you get problems with both black and whites), but then you get black crush again !

Use that test on your XL2411Z and calibrate it so square 1 is invisible and square 2 is barely able to be seen. use standard mode, contrast 50, RGB 100, 100, 92 or similar.

Then try using FPS1 mode and set the Black Equalizer to 0.
Does this help at all?

This should make blacks BLACK but you will have substantial black crush.

[Midgard95]

Thank you at all, which Brightness do you prefer and which icc profile you can recommend?

And I also dont know which Gamma i Should use.

And i dont know why the settings for color vibrance are disabled on the monitor, they are all grey

[Falkentyne]

I don't have that monitor so I don't know.
Just do what looks best.

I only selected black equalizer settings, but you can also try changing the gamma.