MSI OPTIX MAG251RX Review by RLCSContender

[RLCSContender*]

https://www.asus.com/Monitors/TUF-GAMIN ... /HelpDesk/

I downloaded from their driver utility page for the vg259qm

thanks man, i will update what i notice w/ pictures this wednesday.

to refresh everyone's memory including mine, here are the pictures i took a month ago before i returned it



YIKES

and when i said "bad color uniformity" i'm not lying. I ranked the asus Dead last in colors and for GOOD REASON. The funniest part is, the bad color uniformity AMPLIFY the grainy look because it makes individual pixels MORE obvious to see. As if it increased the contrast ratio of each individual pixel LOL



this is straight of the box. I dont' eve know ifi 'm seeing brown, gold, or yellow. But i see the colors of the rainbow. It was soo annoying to look at especially when i browse the internet.

If that ICC profile can mitigate this to 30-40%, i will NEVEr criticize TN ever again.

[RLCSContender*]

For those reading this. If here is the difference between 10 bit vs 8 bit.(MSI mag251rx vs asus tuf vg279qm)

that's 10 bit for ya. If I turn the signal to 8 bit, it will look eXACTLY like the Asus(bad color uniformity, grainy look, whites look like rainbows). But upon switching to 10 bit FULL color(instead of limited), everything fixed it self.

Notice the grainy look(which isn't even remotely AS BAD as the asus) and color uniformity to be more precise(the dark blue sploooges are gone, the only thing u will notice is backlight bleed(in one corner)btw, THESE ARE THE SAME AHVA IPS PANEL FROM AU OPTRONICS.

Both with the same dark blue background(notice how the dark blue is more SHARP on the msi, whereas the blue on the asus is limited to its color range). When it comes to backlight bleed, i'm fairly certain it varies from panel variance. I'm sure i just had bad luck when i purchased the asus and good luck when i got the MSI. the thing is, due to the asus' vg279qm's bad color uniformity, the backlight bleed is amplified. For some reason, the color uniformity problem amplifies EVERY negative effects of an IPS monitor(BLB and making individual pixels more sharp thus making it have a grainy look).

msi mag251RX Color uniformity at 10 bit




ASUS TUF vg279qm, Color uniformity at 8 bit

[Zavon]

Can you help talk me into the 251RX? Had a buddy return one since he said he couldn't take the low brightness and poor colors, unless he just received a bad panel. Right now, I'm leaning towards the XG270 to dual with a S2719DGF.

XG270 is a great choice. I have it ranked #3(behind the asus and MSI). The thing about your "buddy" is that he has no other point of reference to compare it to. Yes, I too was in your friend's shoes. I was criticizing how bad the "MSI" was so I returned it. But upon trying out other monitors, the MSI was simply the best one.

If your friend doesn't like the colors of the AHVA, he could always get the 27gn750, it has the best accurate colors and best viewing angles and a true 99% SRGB which is very similar to the XG270. Expect to get a major hit in performance though 3ms>>>4.2ms g2g

then again, the xg270 doesnt' need a good g2g respone time if it has the best backlight strobing out of all the monitors. So yes, xg270 or the 27gn750 are good alternatives if your friend doesn't like the AHVA IPS such as the MSI.

I myself will tolerate color uniformity that the MSI and other AHVA panels are cursed with, if the performance is excellent. Fornutately, it performs well.

He ended up going back to his old MG248Q, which was odd considering the IPS vs TN color difference. I'm probably going to think it out a bit more, especially since most monitors are out of stock everywhere anyways. I figured the XG270 would look more "in-line" with the size of my existing S2719DGF, but I'm more open to the 251RX now.

[jnashville]

i shall take my vg259qm and post it up here tonight. i am in Asia thus its day time now. monitor is in study room beside a window so can only take it during night time.

using this backlight bleed test.

https://www.lightbleedtest.com/#

now in the day time when i test it out, looks very uniform to me on my vg259qm.

This is one taking day time with a window beside me. So there is reflections a little. I am doing this on a black background from the lightbleedtest.com url above. see my cursor in the middle of the monitor. Even now in day time looks good to me. not sure why yours looks with so much ips bleed.



my brightness set to 90. elmb off.

[Chief Blur Buster]

Don't forget to test nonstrobed 224Hz + Maximum Overdrive with the ViewSonic XG270.

Forum members discovered that the overdrive looks much better at 224Hz than 240Hz.

[jnashville]

came across this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI9RB1wJI70

its in chinese. u can use the auto translate comments to english. i think the guy tested the alienware 240hz IPS monitor with the benq TN panel.

[Dirty Scrubz]

came across this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI9RB1wJI70

its in chinese. u can use the auto translate comments to english. i think the guy tested the alienware 240hz IPS monitor with the benq TN panel.

Yeah this about says it all: https://gyazo.com/892e9caf6b4d58c0c1db9e0f97ec1a71

[jnashville]

yea but ELMB or strobing will eliminate the blur in IPS as well.

[RLCSContender*]

yea but ELMB or strobing will eliminate the blur in IPS as well.

YUP, and and ELMB-SYNC will also prevent tearing so that "blur" when moving cameras will be non-existent.

it doesn't matter if the 360hz TN monitor has good g2g. g2g average gets redundant above 240hz anyway because the whole purpose of a pixel response time goign from gray to gray is less motion blur.

ELMB-SYNC already fixes that. even at 0.1 g2g average, cannot beat the motion clarity and sharpness of strobing. Since the asus elmb sync is locked at 80 overdrive which is the optimal setting for 240-280hz, it's actually in sync and the crosstalk is the least aggressive since the framerate is high. it's only aggressive under 200hz

[Chief Blur Buster]

it doesn't matter if the 360hz TN monitor has good g2g. g2g average gets redundant above 240hz anyway because the whole purpose of a pixel response time goign from gray to gray is less motion blur.

It isn't quite redundant, just butts into some diminishing returns -- Current GtG speed is sufficient fast enough for me to see the difference between 240Hz and 360Hz on the new 360 Hz monitor I saw at CES 2020.

To my eyes, it looked approximately ~1.3x-1.4x clearer than 240Hz (instead of the ideal ~1.5x clearer that perfect GtG 0ms would produce)

GtG curves are not squarewave. How the slow GtG affects ability to be clearly visible at higher Hz, is very hard to say. However, GtG90% should be a tiny fraction of a Hz in order to stop affecting the refresh rate increase.