[Ethernet Onboard-vs-USB-vs-PCIe] I finally found the reason behind my input lag after 6 years

[eropsy]

Hello. I have same problems input lag, mouse lag. Asus PRIME z270-k with intel 1219-V.

I always installed drivers from asus motherboard page, but this time i tried newest network drivers directly from intel and feel huge difference, mouse feels like it should.



I hope its not placebo

Yea, it was placebo. I guess ill just stop play competitive games

[Thatweirdinputlag]

Hello. I have same problems input lag, mouse lag. Asus PRIME z270-k with intel 1219-V.

I always installed drivers from asus motherboard page, but this time i tried newest network drivers directly from intel and feel huge difference, mouse feels like it should.



I hope its not placebo

Give it a day or two

[imprecise]

Hello. I have same problems input lag, mouse lag. Asus PRIME z270-k with intel 1219-V.

I always installed drivers from asus motherboard page, but this time i tried newest network drivers directly from intel and feel huge difference, mouse feels like it should.



I hope its not placebo

Yea, it was placebo. I guess ill just stop play competitive games

Did you try advanced configuration tab?

download/file.php?id=2990

[delve]

it is not placebo, but there are a million of these tweaks that alter mouse lag/feel, you will have to live with it.

[andrelip]

it is not placebo, but there are a million of these tweaks that alter mouse lag/feel, you will have to live with it.

I agree. The interrupt moderation you definitely have a change in game feel, but no clear sweat spot. Off/minimum felt fast but harder, while extreme felt slow but easier. Very strange.

[Bloedboer]

I discovered that there are more power saving options that can be disabled. Even if you disable the power saving options per device ( usb mouse and keyboard ) in device management.

If you go to device management and select view: devices by connection you can find the root usb hub(s). Even tho i disabled all usb power savings the controller itself was still unchecked and could save energy. I disabled this setting on the controller itself. When looking around i also saw Intel management engine could power down when needed. Disabled that aswell and noticed a different mouse feel.

I changed these settings two days ago and mouse movement is still the same. I also disabled xhci handoff but that was a few days before these changes. If anyone could try it out and let me know if it has any positive affect.

[FINALLYFIGUREDITOUT]

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TRY THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!

1.DOWNLOAD THIS (INTEL ETHERNET ADAPTER COMPLETE DRIVER PACK)
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en ... -pack.html
2.INSTALL IT

3.RESTART PC

4. PLEASE, COME BACK AND COMMENT YOUR RESULTS


SPECS: i7700K
Z270 GAMING PRO CARBON
GTX 1080Ti
16GB RAM
I219-V ETHERNET CHIPSET

[Chief Blur Buster]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! problem has been for motherfucking at last been solved !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not the first time I've heard this. I've seen bad Ethernet drivers be the cause of latency.

I encourage looking into this low-lying apple if possible.

Be noted that this is not always the cause; there's many of causes.

[FINALLYFIGUREDITOUT]

IT'S BEEN A DAY AND IT'S STILL WORKING!!! *************IT'S NOT ANYMORE

OK, I'll admit -I read OP's first post and skimmed the rest of the thread -I DID NOT SEE THAT A USER ABOVE KINDA DID THE SAME THING? and it 'worked' only to not actually work at all. ***yep

After my first post, like 15mins of zero problems, it came back. The floaty mouse, the bullets going through enemies, getting domed at first frame of seeing an enemy, packet loss icon despite 1gbps internet. I said "FRICK!" (but I really said "FFFFFFFFUUUUUUCK!!!!!!") ***

I don't know what gravitated me towards the Optional Drivers in Windows Update but I immediately went there. ***

There were several Optional Drivers; System - Intel drivers dating 1970 / misc drivers - Nothing I hadn't downloaded in the past to try to fix this problem before, but only didn't this time because I just clean installed windows again and hadn't given that a try again. ***

Well there was another driver that I don't ever recall seeing before I downloaded the driver pack from intel. It LOOKED LIKE; 3rd Generation 200/300/400/600 series somethingsomething PCIe something something but all I remember was "series" and "PCIe" ***

I said F it; I downloaded everything from Optional Updates > Drivers and IT WORKED. ***No


This is what I did upon my 23031285th clean install of windows 10

1. Downloaded NVIDIA GFX drivers from Geforce Experience - X
2. Downloaded only the Intel Chipset Driver from my motherboard download page - X
3. Downloaded the Intel Chipset Driver from Windows Optional Updates - X
4. Played around with all those BCDEDIT commands in CMD - X
5. Reset all those BCDEDIT commands back to default - X
6. Turned HPET off in BIOS - X
7. Turned HPET on in BIOS - X
8. Tried every combination of forcing HPET off/on in windows, useplatformclock yes/no, useplatformtick yes/no, disabledynamictick yes/no, tscsyncpolicy default/legacy/enhanced, HPET on/off in BIOS XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
9. Reset all those commands back to default, leave HPET to default ON in BIOS - sigh

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10. Come across this thread - hmmmmmm OP has almost the exact same PC as me... with the EXACT same problems...
11. Download https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en ... -pack.html - ??YESSSsssnnNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
12. Download everything from Optional Drivers in Windows Update - YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! ***I'm sad


So - I don't know exactly what it was. Was it that mysterious driver that I didnt see before first downloading the Driver Pack, was it the System - Intel 1970 drivers, or any other MISC driver in there - I do not know. but I downloaded everything from the optional updates > drivers tab. And well - It's been working since. ***Not working anymore

I almost disregarded this thread because wtf how is an ethernet driver going to lag my mouse/stutter my game. The only reason I didn't was seeing OP having the near same exact PC. Same MB, same CPU, same annoying ass problem... for years. Everything OP said in his first post, the same. ***

If you ask me this is what you do; ***Dont ask me. I'm stupid.

download the intel driver pack -> restart PC -> check for updates -> download all optional drivers
(If this 'fix' ever craps the bed I'll report back) ***Hey it's me, reporting back.

If you want to chat/vent ---- feel free to add me on discord.
discord - BigBoss#9345


*********HUGE UPDATE**********


I've come to the only possible conclusion and that is that my computer is haunted. This issue always has me going up and down emotionally. FIXED!! no.... FIXED!!! ahhh no... it's back. I hate it. I'll post back if I ever find anything. Anyway. I'm tired.

[Shade7]

IT'S BEEN A DAY AND IT'S STILL WORKING!!!

OK, I'll admit -I read OP's first post and skimmed the rest of the thread -I DID NOT SEE THAT A USER ABOVE KINDA DID THE SAME THING? and it 'worked' only to not actually work at all.

After my first post, like 15mins of zero problems, it came back. The floaty mouse, the bullets going through enemies, getting domed at first frame of seeing an enemy, packet loss icon despite 1gbps internet. I said "FRICK!" (but I really said "FFFFFFFFUUUUUUCK!!!!!!")

I don't know what gravitated me towards the Optional Drivers in Windows Update but I immediately went there.

There were several Optional Drivers; System - Intel drivers dating 1970 / misc drivers - Nothing I hadn't downloaded in the past to try to fix this problem before, but only didn't this time because I just clean installed windows again and hadn't given that a try again.

Well there was another driver that I don't ever recall seeing before I downloaded the driver pack from intel. It LOOKED LIKE; 3rd Generation 200/300/400/600 series somethingsomething PCIe something something but all I remember was "series" and "PCIe"

I said F it; I downloaded everything from Optional Updates > Drivers and IT WORKED.


This is what I did upon my 23031285th clean install of windows 10

1. Downloaded NVIDIA GFX drivers from Geforce Experience - X
2. Downloaded only the Intel Chipset Driver from my motherboard download page - X
3. Downloaded the Intel Chipset Driver from Windows Optional Updates - X
4. Played around with all those BCDEDIT commands in CMD - X
5. Reset all those BCDEDIT commands back to default - X
6. Turned HPET off in BIOS - X
7. Turned HPET on in BIOS - X
8. Tried every combination of forcing HPET off/on in windows, useplatformclock yes/no, useplatformtick yes/no, disabledynamictick yes/no, tscsyncpolicy default/legacy/enhanced, HPET on/off in BIOS XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
9. Reset all those commands back to default, leave HPET to default ON in BIOS - sigh

------------------------------------------------------
10. Come across this thread - hmmmmmm OP has almost the exact same PC as me... with the EXACT same problems...
11. Download https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en ... -pack.html - ??YESSSsssnnNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
12. Download everything from Optional Drivers in Windows Update - YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!


So - I don't know exactly what it was. Was it that mysterious driver that I didnt see before first downloading the Driver Pack, was it the System - Intel 1970 drivers, or any other MISC driver in there - I do not know. but I downloaded everything from the optional updates > drivers tab. And well - It's been working since.

I almost disregarded this thread because wtf how is an ethernet driver going to lag my mouse/stutter my game. The only reason I didn't was seeing OP having the near same exact PC. Same MB, same CPU, same annoying ass problem... for years. Everything OP said in his first post, the same.

If you ask me this is what you do;

download the intel driver pack -> restart PC -> check for updates -> download all optional drivers
(If this 'fix' ever craps the bed I'll report back - if not, it means it's still working like a charm for me. )

If you want to chat/vent ---- feel free to add me on discord.
discord - BigBoss#9345

Just a random thought here:

Is it possible that your ethernet driver "fix" is temporary- because Windows might be installing a newer version of that driver in the background without notifying you?

I had this problem with my PC. My MOBO has an Intel network adapter (different from the one mentioned in this thread), but it seems to work best with 1 particular driver from about 2 years ago. However, whenever I install that driver, Windows always automatically updates over my older driver with a "newer" version. This usually happens within 24 hours of using my PC with the older driver. I've tried numerous ways to stop automatic driver updates (regedits, Group policy, etc.) nothing seems to stop it. I'd rather not break Windows update functionality completely just to stop this 1 driver.