ASUS VG259QM Blur

[SqruB500]

Maybe as a guy who got same smooth faster picture, u dont see nothing, but i do.

maybe, but like i said before, i see difference through 60fps and youtube, that his game runs faster, not sluggish

Perhaps you do not understand the problem that I want to convey to you, since you did not have the opportunity to see sluggish 240/360hz.

How can you see a "smooth faster picture" of another monitor ON your monitor? The video of the other monitor can only be as smooth as the monitor you're viewing it through.

If you believe otherwise, then buy the monitor model in one of the videos and test it in person.

Because the only thing you can do with your current monitor is set it to 240Hz (or 280Hz overclock) and ensure you have the optimal overdrive preset applied. The rest is down to your system and input devices as to how "smooth" things feel.

i say it already, i test every overdrive settings, 60/80/120, not a visible difference, same sluggish picture

You said you tested everything in your first post, but this is the first time you said you tested 120 overdrive, so I was ruling it out.

So as you said before, if it's 240hz monitor it will show 240hz, not like 240hz fast or slow. So in ur opinion it's not a monitor problem? I Don't think it's a monitor either. But I don’t believe that there are problems with my computer, since it is relatively new, even half a year has not passed...

[SqruB500]

Maybe as a guy who got same smooth faster picture, u dont see nothing, but i do.

maybe, but like i said before, i see difference through 60fps and youtube, that his game runs faster, not sluggish

Perhaps you do not understand the problem that I want to convey to you, since you did not have the opportunity to see sluggish 240/360hz.

How can you see a "smooth faster picture" of another monitor ON your monitor? The video of the other monitor can only be as smooth as the monitor you're viewing it through.

If you believe otherwise, then buy the monitor model in one of the videos and test it in person.

Because the only thing you can do with your current monitor is set it to 240Hz (or 280Hz overclock) and ensure you have the optimal overdrive preset applied. The rest is down to your system and input devices as to how "smooth" things feel.

i say it already, i test every overdrive settings, 60/80/120, not a visible difference, same sluggish picture

You said you tested everything in your first post, but this is the first time you said you tested 120 overdrive, so I was ruling it out.

in computer clubs, cheaper 240Hz monitor models give better smoothness, so looks like there is not a monitor issue imo...

[SqruB500]

Maybe as a guy who got same smooth faster picture, u dont see nothing, but i do.

maybe, but like i said before, i see difference through 60fps and youtube, that his game runs faster, not sluggish

Perhaps you do not understand the problem that I want to convey to you, since you did not have the opportunity to see sluggish 240/360hz.

How can you see a "smooth faster picture" of another monitor ON your monitor? The video of the other monitor can only be as smooth as the monitor you're viewing it through.

If you believe otherwise, then buy the monitor model in one of the videos and test it in person.

Because the only thing you can do with your current monitor is set it to 240Hz (or 280Hz overclock) and ensure you have the optimal overdrive preset applied. The rest is down to your system and input devices as to how "smooth" things feel.

i say it already, i test every overdrive settings, 60/80/120, not a visible difference, same sluggish picture

You said you tested everything in your first post, but this is the first time you said you tested 120 overdrive, so I was ruling it out.

https://www.overclock.net/threads/i-per ... e.1635464/
There is like same problem, a guy got better smoothness on his 75hz than his new 144hz, according to him until the moment he changed the settings "Adjust Voltage Swing" and "Adjust Pre Emphasis" on amd settings...

[jorimt]

i see that his game runs better than mine, i'm not sensitive, my brother too see that, my fps game feels sluggish. Test 3 dif monitors, 2 dif pc, same result

If you've tested 3 different monitors and 2 different PCs, then it's likely not your current monitor or PC. I'm guessing even if you played with the setups you saw in the videos you'd probably find similar issues in person.

It's possible you're just highly sensitive and have somewhat unrealistic expectations, because I've talked to many players like you and none have ever "solved" any of their issues no matter what they've tried.

I've got nothing else to add, but wish you luck all the same.

[newbworld]

It's possible you're just highly sensitive and have somewhat unrealistic expectations, because I've talked to many players like you and none have ever "solved" any of their issues no matter what they've tried.

hi, I recently bought Dell S2522HG as an upgrade from ASUS VG247Q1A because it has very obvious Ghosting artifact.
the trailing motion artifact make me uncomfortable so I bought Dell S2522HG, hoping for a better gaming experience.

However, things didn't go as planned, now I'm suffer from this Stroboscopic Effect, before the upgrade, I've never seen such flaw in ASUS VG247Q1A, is it because of the different panel type?

if the Stroboscopic Effect cannot be fixed, what's the point for buying those expensive model like zowie?

[jorimt]

hi, I recently bought Dell S2522HG as an upgrade from ASUS VG247Q1A because it has very obvious Ghosting artifact.
the trailing motion artifact make me uncomfortable so I bought Dell S2522HG, hoping for a better gaming experience.

However, things didn't go as planned, now I'm suffer from this Stroboscopic Effect, before the upgrade, I've never seen such flaw in ASUS VG247Q1A, is it because of the different panel type?

The faster the native GtG (pixel response time) of the panel, and the less the overdrive artifacts ("trailing"), the more obvious the stroboscopic effect will be; OLED is even "worse" in this respect (aka superior) due to its near instantaneous pixel response time.

Assuming we're indeed talking about the same effect, and not another issue, your previous display must have had a slow enough native GtG and more overdrive artifacts to mask the effect vs. your new display.

if the Stroboscopic Effect cannot be fixed, what's the point for buying those expensive model like zowie?

So you'd rather have the effect masked by ghosting/smearing instead? Because that and/or enabling heavier camera motion blur effects in-game (where available) are really the only alternatives at currently achievable refresh + framerates.

If so, you can ultimately attempt returning to an older/slower monitor model, but there's no getting away from it on the newer models, since pixel response times are only going to improve on LCDs going forward.

[newbworld]

So you'd rather have the effect masked by ghosting/smearing instead? Because that and/or enabling heavier camera motion blur effects in-game (where available) are really the only alternatives at currently achievable refresh + framerates.

If so, you can ultimately attempt returning to an older/slower monitor model, but there's no getting away from it on the newer models, since pixel response times are only going to improve on LCDs going forward.

No, I don't like the ghosting effect, but this stroboscopic effect makes me even more uncomfortable, and every time I see phantoms when the viewing angle changes, I get nausea and headaches.
I don't move the mouse very fast, in fact, even small movements change (10 or 15 degrees change) produce very noticeable strobe in the game.

I know it's impossible to eliminate them, but is there no middle ground?
with small amount trailing and no stroboscopic effect.

I really need a monitor that can play first person games without making me sick.

[jorimt]

I know it's impossible to eliminate them, but is there no middle ground?
with small amount trailing and no stroboscopic effect.

Nope, not other than the "solutions" I mentioned in my previous reply to you, again, assuming your stated issue is indeed stroboscopic effect and not some other characteristic you're conflating it with on the S2522HG.

[newbworld]

So from my understanding, I need to find a monitor that has a response time of ~6ms (at 165Hz refresh rate), which will have minimal trailing/leading artifacts if the overdrive properly adjusted and virtually almost no stroboscopic effect.

because right now the one I have is just too fast. correct?
in other word, I need to find a not so bad also not so good monitor.

[jorimt]

So from my understanding, I need to find a monitor that has a response time of ~6ms (at 165Hz refresh rate), which will have minimal trailing/leading artifacts if the overdrive properly adjusted and virtually almost no stroboscopic effect.

because right now the one I have is just too fast. correct?

Again, there will always be the stroboscopic effect, but it can be masked more on monitors with slower GtG performance.

So, yes, the effect may be less pronounced on a 165Hz monitor with a ~6ms GtG vs, say, a 165Hz OLED monitor with a ~0ms GtG, but it will be there either way.

As I said previously, make sure that your issue is actually the stroboscopic effect before you start returning/purchasing more monitors, because if you misdiagnose, you may end up needlessly going through several monitors that have the same issue to varying degrees.