Persistent, system-wide microstutter/jitter. Hard to diagnose

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ticoex
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Re: Persistent, system-wide microstutter/jitter. Hard to diagnose

Post by ticoex » 26 Nov 2024, 20:13

widow13 wrote: ↑
26 Nov 2024, 20:00

Do urself a favor and do a fresh install.
Last time you did was 2 years ago, that's a long time.
Will doo. Ill do the debloating steps too. The stutter was here before then too

widow13
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Re: Persistent, system-wide microstutter/jitter. Hard to diagnose

Post by widow13 » 26 Nov 2024, 20:14

ticoex wrote: ↑
26 Nov 2024, 20:13
widow13 wrote: ↑
26 Nov 2024, 20:00

Do urself a favor and do a fresh install.
Last time you did was 2 years ago, that's a long time.
Will doo. Ill do the debloating steps too. The stutter was here before then too

After fresh re-install,install your chipset/lan/audio and nvidia drivers.
Do your windows updates and give latencymon a try before doing any de-bloat/optimize/tweak.

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Slender
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Re: Persistent, system-wide microstutter/jitter. Hard to diagnose

Post by Slender » 27 Nov 2024, 01:35

ok, if you want reinstall windows you need make it correctly.
There is 2 variants:
1. using ventoy + revios ventoy config
2. disable eth cable while installation and block device update in advanced system settings
install only NIC (if w11 use wdf driver, if 10 use classic ndis) and gpu driver via nvcleaninstall (enable msi mode / disable dhcp only)
use 2nd variant if you copy is legal.
if that not help you (that not because issue is NOT windows or hardware), try to:
enable CSM mode / Disable TPM / Disable Secure boot / Disable r-bar / Disable 4g decoding. + try enable / disable virtualization (it adds pci ports in msi mode when enabled)

dermodemon
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Re: Persistent, system-wide microstutter/jitter. Hard to diagnose

Post by dermodemon » 27 Nov 2024, 02:37

ticoex wrote: ↑
26 Nov 2024, 11:35
dermodemon wrote: ↑
26 Nov 2024, 04:31
Did u change some of you powewplan options? if so try to restore them to default
I did. I'm using ultimate power plan at the moment. I'll switch it after work and see what it looks like.
some of those "ultimate power plan" are broken. for me too. i have stuterring when using ultimate power plan too

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Re: Persistent, system-wide microstutter/jitter. Hard to diagnose

Post by Kanipshun » 27 Nov 2024, 05:33

This is going to sound bizarre, of course a lot of fixes here do but you should give it a try.
Unplug everything from your pc, ethernet, power, usb's. Hold the power button for a few seconds while it is unplugged.
Plug everything back in except move all your peripherals to different ports.
If you have use audio through USB, make sure you plug this into a different USB than it originally was plugged in. It seems to me that my USB audio headset does better plugged in to one of the USB's on the front top of the pc.

This is something that works for me once in a while. IT WON'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM PERMANENTLY and for some reason (like many of the other fixes here) doesn't work all the time but it does indicate that you may be suffering from the same input lag issues many of us have.

A couple other things to try.
Remove all monitors in device manager (uninstall) and then either change dp port for the monitor or just remove the power cord from monitor and plug it back in.

I don't know why any of these things work.

ticoex
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Re: Persistent, system-wide microstutter/jitter. Hard to diagnose

Post by ticoex » 27 Nov 2024, 12:08

dermodemon wrote: ↑
27 Nov 2024, 02:37

some of those "ultimate power plan" are broken. for me too. i have stuterring when using ultimate power plan too
I tried after switching to balanced. No change

ticoex
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Re: Persistent, system-wide microstutter/jitter. Hard to diagnose

Post by ticoex » 27 Nov 2024, 12:09

widow13 wrote: ↑
26 Nov 2024, 20:14

After fresh re-install,install your chipset/lan/audio and nvidia drivers.
Do your windows updates and give latencymon a try before doing any de-bloat/optimize/tweak.
Will do and get back to you

ticoex
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Re: Persistent, system-wide microstutter/jitter. Hard to diagnose

Post by ticoex » 27 Nov 2024, 12:10

Slender wrote: ↑
27 Nov 2024, 01:35
ok, if you want reinstall windows you need make it correctly.
There is 2 variants:
1. using ventoy + revios ventoy config
2. disable eth cable while installation and block device update in advanced system settings
install only NIC (if w11 use wdf driver, if 10 use classic ndis) and gpu driver via nvcleaninstall (enable msi mode / disable dhcp only)
use 2nd variant if you copy is legal.
if that not help you (that not because issue is NOT windows or hardware), try to:
enable CSM mode / Disable TPM / Disable Secure boot / Disable r-bar / Disable 4g decoding. + try enable / disable virtualization (it adds pci ports in msi mode when enabled)
I'm going to do this as a post Thanksgiving step. Ill post back here once i do. Thank you

ticoex
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Re: Persistent, system-wide microstutter/jitter. Hard to diagnose

Post by ticoex » 27 Nov 2024, 12:10

Kanipshun wrote: ↑
27 Nov 2024, 05:33
This is going to sound bizarre, of course a lot of fixes here do but you should give it a try.
Unplug everything from your pc, ethernet, power, usb's. Hold the power button for a few seconds while it is unplugged.
Plug everything back in except move all your peripherals to different ports.
If you have use audio through USB, make sure you plug this into a different USB than it originally was plugged in. It seems to me that my USB audio headset does better plugged in to one of the USB's on the front top of the pc.

This is something that works for me once in a while. IT WON'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM PERMANENTLY and for some reason (like many of the other fixes here) doesn't work all the time but it does indicate that you may be suffering from the same input lag issues many of us have.

A couple other things to try.
Remove all monitors in device manager (uninstall) and then either change dp port for the monitor or just remove the power cord from monitor and plug it back in.

I don't know why any of these things work.
Nothing sound bizarre at this point. Ill try this later to day.

ticoex
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Joined: 24 Nov 2024, 23:41

Re: Persistent, system-wide microstutter/jitter. Hard to diagnose

Post by ticoex » 27 Nov 2024, 12:13

I'm leaving for Thanksgiving and will be returning in a couple weeks. I plan to check back here, but wont be able to try any more solutions until then. I plan to bump the thread once I've returned. Thank you all for your help so far. This has been the most edifying forum response I've had so far

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