This is the first I've heard of my Windows version being the problem. Would you mind elaborating? I keep everything updated. Is there a way to revert/update the build? What about 2009 is the problem?Hyote wrote: ↑26 Nov 2024, 04:58Jesus, those numbers. Get off version 2009, I don't know why so many people are stuck on that horrible half baked build. It doesn't have the newest features but in turn it has a lot of bugs and probably the worst performance ever.ticoex wrote: ↑25 Nov 2024, 15:54I've included the stats page too. I didnt include all drivers, just those with a DPC count and execution. Similarly, i did the top of the Processes tab. I did try a DDU reinstall of VGA driver before but ill try again with the file you listedwidow13 wrote: ↑25 Nov 2024, 15:21
Can u send the drivers,processes tab aswell ?
Also, try this driver to make sure it's not the driver, I don't have issues with this one.
Use DDU to get rid of the previous first.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/82b56ena ... 4.exe/file
Persistent, system-wide microstutter/jitter. Hard to diagnose
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Gave that driver a try. No change in behaviorwidow13 wrote: ↑25 Nov 2024, 15:21
Can u send the drivers,processes tab aswell ?
Also, try this driver to make sure it's not the driver, I don't have issues with this one.
Use DDU to get rid of the previous first.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/82b56ena ... 4.exe/file
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Hm interesting, are you really in version 2009 or is it a bug with the os ?ticoex wrote: ↑26 Nov 2024, 16:11Gave that driver a try. No change in behaviorwidow13 wrote: ↑25 Nov 2024, 15:21
Can u send the drivers,processes tab aswell ?
Also, try this driver to make sure it's not the driver, I don't have issues with this one.
Use DDU to get rid of the previous first.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/82b56ena ... 4.exe/file
Give it a check in windows specifications. Should look like this.
I'd re-install a fresh copy of windows and see if the PC behaves the same.
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Yeah I'd almost put money on the version being the culprit. Even more so if it was updated from a previous build. There are ways to update this but you definitely need a fresh install. A lot of problems with 1903-2009 ranging from bugs to insanely high latency at times.ticoex wrote: ↑26 Nov 2024, 11:37This is the first I've heard of my Windows version being the problem. Would you mind elaborating? I keep everything updated. Is there a way to revert/update the build? What about 2009 is the problem?Hyote wrote: ↑26 Nov 2024, 04:58Jesus, those numbers. Get off version 2009, I don't know why so many people are stuck on that horrible half baked build. It doesn't have the newest features but in turn it has a lot of bugs and probably the worst performance ever.ticoex wrote: ↑25 Nov 2024, 15:54I've included the stats page too. I didnt include all drivers, just those with a DPC count and execution. Similarly, i did the top of the Processes tab. I did try a DDU reinstall of VGA driver before but ill try again with the file you listedwidow13 wrote: ↑25 Nov 2024, 15:21
Can u send the drivers,processes tab aswell ?
Also, try this driver to make sure it's not the driver, I don't have issues with this one.
Use DDU to get rid of the previous first.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/82b56ena ... 4.exe/file
I'd suggest physically cleaning your pc, reseating the components, saving your BIOS settings and loading them after a CMOS reset before doing this however. Honestly those LatencyMon results look like the PC equivalent of a cancer patient.
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Re: Persistent, system-wide microstutter/jitter. Hard to diagnose
If you don't wanna a fresh Windows install (I hate that too), try a full driver reinstall.
Sometimes I had to do full uninstall first, zero driver traces.
Reboot into what is essentially generic VGA/SVGA/XGA/etc adaptor mode.
Then reinstall driver.
Do not preserve NVCP settings, some hidden eastereggs can be bad.
Factory reset to new-system GPU settings FTW. You'll have to re-optimize from there.
Failing that, yeah, do the thing that you're balking at doing. (Hello Windows 11 ISO on a USB stick).
Sometimes I had to do full uninstall first, zero driver traces.
Reboot into what is essentially generic VGA/SVGA/XGA/etc adaptor mode.
Then reinstall driver.
Do not preserve NVCP settings, some hidden eastereggs can be bad.
Factory reset to new-system GPU settings FTW. You'll have to re-optimize from there.
Failing that, yeah, do the thing that you're balking at doing. (Hello Windows 11 ISO on a USB stick).
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Looks about the same
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I've tried all this! I reseated everything i could think to, checked connections, and even blew away any dust. I have done multiple CMOS resets. Its driving me a little crazy tbh. Ill give those steps another go to morrow and see what happens.Hyote wrote: ↑26 Nov 2024, 17:00
Yeah I'd almost put money on the version being the culprit. Even more so if it was updated from a previous build. There are ways to update this but you definitely need a fresh install. A lot of problems with 1903-2009 ranging from bugs to insanely high latency at times.
I'd suggest physically cleaning your pc, reseating the components, saving your BIOS settings and loading them after a CMOS reset before doing this however. Honestly those LatencyMon results look like the PC equivalent of a cancer patient.
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Ok, I can begin doing this. Do you have any guidance on uninstalling all drivers and reinstalling? I've tried before but didnt get confirmation the drivers were fully installed. Is there a way to check? Is it just as simple as booting into safe mode and uninstalling in device manger, disconnecting from internet and reinstalling driver after reboot?Chief Blur Buster wrote: ↑26 Nov 2024, 17:09If you don't wanna a fresh Windows install (I hate that too), try a full driver reinstall.
Sometimes I had to do full uninstall first, zero driver traces.
Reboot into what is essentially generic VGA/SVGA/XGA/etc adaptor mode.
Then reinstall driver.
Do not preserve NVCP settings, some hidden eastereggs can be bad.
Factory reset to new-system GPU settings FTW. You'll have to re-optimize from there.
Failing that, yeah, do the thing that you're balking at doing. (Hello Windows 11 ISO on a USB stick).
I have reinstalled windows recently. In my previous message I found my os version and it showed when I last tried fixing this issue (2 years ago)
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Do urself a favor and do a fresh install.ticoex wrote: ↑26 Nov 2024, 18:32Ok, I can begin doing this. Do you have any guidance on uninstalling all drivers and reinstalling? I've tried before but didnt get confirmation the drivers were fully installed. Is there a way to check? Is it just as simple as booting into safe mode and uninstalling in device manger, disconnecting from internet and reinstalling driver after reboot?Chief Blur Buster wrote: ↑26 Nov 2024, 17:09If you don't wanna a fresh Windows install (I hate that too), try a full driver reinstall.
Sometimes I had to do full uninstall first, zero driver traces.
Reboot into what is essentially generic VGA/SVGA/XGA/etc adaptor mode.
Then reinstall driver.
Do not preserve NVCP settings, some hidden eastereggs can be bad.
Factory reset to new-system GPU settings FTW. You'll have to re-optimize from there.
Failing that, yeah, do the thing that you're balking at doing. (Hello Windows 11 ISO on a USB stick).
I have reinstalled windows recently. In my previous message I found my os version and it showed when I last tried fixing this issue (2 years ago)
Last time you did was 2 years ago, that's a long time.
