ok thanksuwaaa wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 04:49NX Mode is a security feature, turn it off unless u must use an AC that requires it. MouseDataQueueSize should be left on default.
CS Stutters
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Re: CS Stutters
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- Slender
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Re: CS Stutters
presentmoon 2.0 cause kernel latency delay
- kyube
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Re: CS Stutters
It's interesting that you mention fTPM in particular.
I've talked to this one user who shares the configuration you have... he omited the fact that he uses a dTPM module from his old Z690 motherboard.
This model in particular: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09PBMQ8YY
Since your post, I've also seen another complaint of your particular MB+CPU combination (X670E Tomahawk + 9800x3d) having fTPM-related macrostuttering issues.
The other ones you've mentioned are general latency reduction and are to be expected to be beneficial to anything latency-sensitive.
I'm not sure why you've decided to post this "information" (which lacks any proof to back it up) here...
That's also a non-sensical statement.
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Re: CS Stutters
I have a 12 pin dTPM module with a gigabyte b650 board, it does not eliminate the 0.01 lags that change the mouse trajectorykyube wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 07:37It's interesting that you mention fTPM in particular.
I've talked to this one user who shares the configuration you have... he omited the fact that he uses a dTPM module from his old Z690 motherboard.
This model in particular: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09PBMQ8YY
Since your post, I've also seen a complaint of someone mentioning X670E Tomahawk + 9800x3d having fTPM stuttering
The other ones you've mentioned are general latency reduction and are to be expected to be beneficial to anything latency-sensitive.
I'm not sure why you've decided to post this "information" (which lacks any proof to back it up) here...
That's also a non-sensical statement.
one interesting thing I have noticed is that when I play on a community server and I have a game search in premiere mode, 2-3 seconds before the green "accept game" button appears I experience a large amount of small 0.01ms lags, i.e. when my game client receives a sudden amount of packets from the cs2 network side, I get a large amount of 0.01 lags
- kyube
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Re: CS Stutters
That's good for you.n1ghtik wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 08:26I have a 12 pin dTPM module with a gigabyte b650 board, it does not eliminate the 0.01 lags that change the mouse trajectory
one interesting thing I have noticed is that when I play on a community server and I have a game search in premiere mode, 2-3 seconds before the green "accept game" button appears I experience a large amount of small 0.01ms lags, i.e. when my game client receives a sudden amount of packets from the cs2 network side, I get a large amount of 0.01 lags
I fail to understand how your issue is correlated to the OP, who claims to have pinpointed his issue to be related to fTPM incompatibility of his mobo + CPU
Maybe posting in some networking-related forum topic might've been a more appropriate choice.
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Re: CS Stutters
I don't have time for this. You have dpclatcheker and the kernel timer latency moon measurement mode. You can easily check it yourself. Version 1 or 1.1 did not have this problem. Just don't tell me that these programs are either outdated or inaccurate, I'm sick of it.kyube wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 07:37It's interesting that you mention fTPM in particular.
I've talked to this one user who shares the configuration you have... he omited the fact that he uses a dTPM module from his old Z690 motherboard.
This model in particular: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09PBMQ8YY
Since your post, I've also seen another complaint of your particular MB+CPU combination (X670E Tomahawk + 9800x3d) having fTPM-related macrostuttering issues.
The other ones you've mentioned are general latency reduction and are to be expected to be beneficial to anything latency-sensitive.
I'm not sure why you've decided to post this "information" (which lacks any proof to back it up) here...
That's also a non-sensical statement.
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Re: CS Stutters
That is... a funny statement.
Can you explain to me what exactly LatencyMon's kernel timer latency is measuring?
Because the dev of LatencyMon has not confirmed this himself, nor is it clear from any ETW data.
DPC Latency Checker also does not accurately represent driver performance since Windows 10, from what I'm aware.
Though, asking the dev of that app sw might lead to more clues to it's compatibility.
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