CS2 Margin Graph

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vnb
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Re: CS2 Margin Graph

Post by vnb » 16 Nov 2025, 14:22

SammYrai wrote:
16 Nov 2025, 13:27
vnb wrote:
16 Nov 2025, 05:53
this can only happen if your ISP is using PPPoE.... if you are on IPoE (DHCP) lease time is too long to get a new IP address if you disconnect the ethernet WAN port then reconnect it....
I just want to add that most (big) cable providers where you get a IPoE DHCP leased address will discard your lease reservation after a few hours of downtime, so if you want to change your IP you have good chances if you just unplug your modem over night.
yes, i know.

i was saying that because the "trick" Slender proposed only works for PPoE... As for each PPP session you will have a new IP so disconnecting / reconnecting instantly wan port only works for PPPoE because new session = new IP. While in IPoE DHCP you always have a lease time so you have to wait X amount of time before the server assign your router a new IP.

From the bunch of ISP i have used in the past that use IPoE DHCP the lease time was 6h at minimum so yeah... if someone absolutely want to change IP as you said; just unplug the router/modem before going to sleep.

Maybe some ISP have shorter lease time but from my knowledge i have never seen a lease time under 6 min. Most of the time it is a couple hours...

urikawa
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Re: CS2 Margin Graph

Post by urikawa » 21 Nov 2025, 04:12

Hello i have done two things to get the same result ingame.
Installed qosmate on openwrt and set my ftth 1gb up and down internet connection to 230mb / 135 mb :'( and no more jitter and A+ bufferbloat and good result net perfect in cs2)
I have put this settings the night when everyone play and when i have the problem :p the day i have A+ bufferbloat with 800mb down and 400 up
The other problem was frame pacing for cs2 i used RTSS fps limiter to use the "Nvidia Reflex" option (added with 7.3.5 update) disabled in nvcp low latency mode.
I capped in RTSS the frame at 400fps i have 360Hz 1440x1080 resolution with alienware qdled.
My setup is capable of doing 800 fps at that resolution and 320 fps for the 1% low, but the hitreg was bad with uncapped fps.
The feeling when playing is the best with this setup for my config with rtss.
You need to add to launch command in steam to allow rtss cap -allow_third_party_software cs2 launcher.
i also have setup this for battlefield 6 the hitreg is also better in feeling.

vnb
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Re: CS2 Margin Graph

Post by vnb » 21 Nov 2025, 16:34

urikawa wrote:
21 Nov 2025, 04:12
Hello i have done two things to get the same result ingame.
Installed qosmate on openwrt and set my ftth 1gb up and down internet connection to 230mb / 135 mb :'( and no more jitter and A+ bufferbloat and good result net perfect in cs2)
I have put this settings the night when everyone play and when i have the problem :p the day i have A+ bufferbloat with 800mb down and 400 up
The other problem was frame pacing for cs2 i used RTSS fps limiter to use the "Nvidia Reflex" option (added with 7.3.5 update) disabled in nvcp low latency mode.
I capped in RTSS the frame at 400fps i have 360Hz 1440x1080 resolution with alienware qdled.
My setup is capable of doing 800 fps at that resolution and 320 fps for the 1% low, but the hitreg was bad with uncapped fps.
The feeling when playing is the best with this setup for my config with rtss.
You need to add to launch command in steam to allow rtss cap -allow_third_party_software cs2 launcher.
i also have setup this for battlefield 6 the hitreg is also better in feeling.
what's your gpu / mobo / cpu? you are saying that you have bad "frame pacing in cs2"... BTW the game is completely broken not only for you but everybody else... Nobody have good frame pacing in cs2 even with rtx4090 and 9800x3d...

Also pretty interesting that you say uncapped fps give you worse hitreg because for me it is the exact opposite ? But i prefer to play with capped FPS because i have higher 1% low with capped FPS.

2 of my friends say capped FPS feels better hitreg and 2 other feels like uncapped FPS feels better for hitreg (all lvl10 faceit) so very inconsistent; lol. Same thing on twitter pretty much 50/50 on capped vs uncapped.

the game definitely still needs a lot of works even 2 years after it was released it still feels like beta, lol. In CSGO the dev took like 5-6 years before the game felt "close to perfect". so i guess we still have at least 3 years of waiting before having a more polished game, unfortunately...

urikawa
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Re: CS2 Margin Graph

Post by urikawa » 22 Nov 2025, 09:42

My config is pretty optimize for cs2 i play since half life mod of cs and i was a lan player too
Before i would have agree for different setup i have tested so much now and the better is this own you could give a try :) bios is tuned also
I can give all my optimization and bios settings if you need

Router is VEP1400-X DELL 8 Core with openwrt 24.10.4 and qosmate
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D with Alphacool Eisbaer Pro Aurora 420 AIO
MOTHERBOARD: ROG CROSSHAIR X870E APEX
PSU: ATX 3.1 - NZXT C1000 GOLD
GPU: MSI RTX 5080 TRIO OC GAMING 16G
RAM: Lexar 6200Mhz CAS26
Infinity Fabric 2100
Storage: MSI SPATIUM M580 PCIe 5.0 NVMe 2TB
Network: Emulex 10GB
Display: Dell Alienware AW2725DF - 360Hz 2K QDLED
OS: Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC (Debloated with NTLite)
Keyboard : Wooting 80HE @ 8 kHz
Mouse: OP1 8khz v2
Headset: Logitech G PRO X 2 LIGHTSPEED
Mousepad: Artisan Ninja FX Zero
Sensitivity: Windows 2 - Ingame 0.5 @ 1600 DPI
Launch options: -allow_third_party_software
FPS Heaven CS2 Benchmark 1% low 320 fps 1440x1080 4:3 Strech
https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbl ... 5337800b2c
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darkbebe
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Re: CS2 Margin Graph

Post by darkbebe » 29 Dec 2025, 05:59

Hi ,
do you know if there is a command to see the rcv margin download graph please? we have the command that shows the upload but not download :?
i have good upload rcv margin and bad download rcv margin. when my game is good the download below rcv margin is low

i've found out that one of my island's mobile provider connection has good download rcv margin like 8%. but their upload rcv is bad sadly & has lot of jitter and red line. the hit register feels amazing half of the time , a feeling that i rarely get with fiber isps & mobile providers !

i've read a guy somewhere who was able to change his upload rcv by restarting the game few times & then have a nice smooth game.
if i can see download rcv graph maybe i could do the same for my fiber connection

Have a good day

vnb
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Re: CS2 Margin Graph

Post by vnb » 10 Jan 2026, 23:54

darkbebe wrote:
29 Dec 2025, 05:59
Hi ,
do you know if there is a command to see the rcv margin download graph please? we have the command that shows the upload but not download :?
i have good upload rcv margin and bad download rcv margin. when my game is good the download below rcv margin is low

i've found out that one of my island's mobile provider connection has good download rcv margin like 8%. but their upload rcv is bad sadly & has lot of jitter and red line. the hit register feels amazing half of the time , a feeling that i rarely get with fiber isps & mobile providers !

i've read a guy somewhere who was able to change his upload rcv by restarting the game few times & then have a nice smooth game.
if i can see download rcv graph maybe i could do the same for my fiber connection

Have a good day
I said it before and i will say it again. the number "x% below desired recv margin" is not the issue, it has already been confirmed by a Valve engineer that it doesn’t affect the gameplay at least for the downstream. Here is why :

By default the CS2 engine expects a downstream recv margin of 5ms and an upstream recv margin of 5ms

Look at the build info, bottom left corner.
AA-zz-BB-xx-xx

AA = upstream recv margin / BB = downstream recv margin / the number in between them 'zz' is your ping.

I believe there is an issue currently with the game engine; specially with the upstream value (AA) because anything under 07 would basically make the engine to "slow you down" -- meaning your movement / bullets.

In other words even though the CS2 engine expect a 5ms up and a 5ms down recv value; it is not capable YET of processing anything under 07ms (AA) -- from client to server.

How do i know? lately, I have extensively tested that on a local LAN with fiber and 1ms ping + multiple PCs.

When you get slowed down (having 06 or 05) you start to have yellow lines in the margin graph like i posted in my first comment

AA number being 07 up to 15 : Green margin graph, no yellow lines
AA number being 06 : yellow lines starts showing up in the margin graph
AA number being 05 : yellow lines are like 40% of the margin graph

(the lower the AA numbers, the faster your PC and internet connection are sending update tick positions to the server)

yellow lines means roughly that the client (your pc) is running "faster" than the server so in order to be in-sync the server has to slow you down -- the impact you feel? Your shots take longer to hit, enemy movements are erratic, your strafes are delayed.

With the animgraph 2 update that is around the corner this will be fixed (HOPEFULLY); i have read that animgraph 1 (right now) is sending too much data to servers, meaning that the servers have a harder time calculating all the players positions at each subtick so this is why the servers cannot process under 07ms upstream margin for the time being.

While with animgraph 2 there will be massive reductions in data being sent from clients to server; so the servers will have more headroom for processing, so they will probably be able to go down to the original value set of 05ms upstream margin meaning the yellow lines in margin graph would hopefully disappear ( and all it's bad symptoms too).

Time will tell us, one thing for sure is that the game engine is not in it's best state currently. Main issues is that the network side is using too much data; and servers can’t process 128 ticks equivalent because you need a fuck ton of processing power and it is not profitable enough to pay for more powerful servers; don't forget Face IT and VALVE are businesses and they are putting their profits before anything else...

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